City v Cumberland Catch up result

[scipio africanus]

Anyone know the result from last night's catch up?

[ball_girl]

It wasn't played. The lines were not clearly marked and the referee called the game off.

[juniorsupporter]

Was that supposed to be played at Park 18?

[scipio africanus]

It wasn't played. The lines were not clearly marked and the referee called the game off.

You serious? Not a good look whatsoever for the Premier League.

[SAD GAL]

Be playing on a sheep's paddock soon.

FFSA doesn't take women's soccer seriously. Clubs prevented from speaking out and kicking the FFSA's arese.

Parents lives once again treated as unimportant. Come on guys its a f'en diabolical situation. AND you don't want us to slag the compeition off. Mate you're doing a good job at windong down the competition.

BY the way I think I got it...I think FFSA are liquidators. Slash and burn the women's comp and then close the doors. Bye Bye

[jim.mcguinness]

Gold , mmmmmmmmmm no lines marked in the PREMIER LEAGUE , it going from bad to worse , does anyone really care?, at least it saved Cumberland from a thumping . excellent competition for the womens elite in the state .

[Super Baron]

That means City should forfeit the game as it was their home game.

[the barbarian]

what a joke, challenge series, game called of/re schedulled to accommodate last nights catch up game, then ref calls of game?? cannot see lines surely AC would have checked the lines and could have remarked them before the game?? What is going on?? What a waste of everyones time.

[here we go]

It can only get worse. The reality is that stupidity has no limit.

The events of the last few days confirm where the women's game is at.

[johnydep]

It can only get worse. The reality is that stupidity has no limit.

The events of the last few days confirm where the women's game is at.

It's across the board. I may write a comedy one day.

[juniorsupporter]

Be sure you have a good editor.

[here we go]

Would it be so hard to play games. Hard to believe pitch markings were that bad.
I've seen games played, div1 amateurs men played with worse line markings.

Two teams turn up to play, but wait, we can't because of line markings. Just play the game PLEASE!!!

So good at picking up on the finer details at the expense of the game!!!

That's another reason why people are leaving the game, it's all getting too hard people.

[Hetro Metro]

I was there, the lines were faintly visable, a guy arrived just before ko to rectify the lines, complete idiot of a referee called it off 7.10pm, whole pitch was marked by 7.25pm.

Both teams wanted to play. I hope this ref gets pulled over the hot coals for a clear lack of common sense and common decency. Sure the rules are defined but you have 30 women wanting to play, a club doing its best to rectify a shortfall. Shame fall clearly on the referees in this case. The referees nead to realise the Respect program is a whole lot more than just standing in a line before the game and shaking everyones hand.

[juniorsupporter]

Finally some sense from someone who was there. Thanks for that HM. Hope ref was put to the question. Common sense seems in short supply there.

[here we go]

Respect is a TWO WAY STREET. If some time was afforded to a “volunteer” to complete pitch markings, the game would have been played, albeit slightly delayed. It wouldn’t be the first time a game was delayed for this reason!!!
Isn’t that why we all are part of football, to play this beautiful game???

[Bodø's Publicist]

It can only get worse. The reality is that stupidity has no limit.
The events of the last few days confirm where the women's game is at.

It's across the board. I may write a comedy one day.

You may write one too.

[Bodø's Publicist]

Be sure you have a good editor.

[ball_girl]

Finally some sense from someone who was there. Thanks for that HM. Hope ref was put to the question. Common sense seems in short supply there.

I was there also. Whilst some lines were very faintly visible (& only when you were up close), others were non existant... the ref asked early for this to be rectified and 15 minutes after this request someone from Adelaide City came over with a single SPRAY CAN to try to mark the lines. Not only was the result a wonky line, it was also still not very clear.

The game was due to start at 7. It was requested at 6.30 to have the lines remarked, to which everyone was told that "someone was coming". It seemed awfully convenient that once the ref decided the game was not going to go ahead at 10 past 7 (after 2 phone calls to Tracey Dicer & a failed attempt at using a spray can), that the line marker suddenly appeared.

The line was still being marked when we left at 7.40.

Its with the FFSA now. Whats the procedure when a catch up game is called off? Does the home team have to forfeit? Or will it be rescheduled?

[juniorsupporter]

Guess there really are two sides to every story! (and I mean that in a completely nonjudgemental way as I wasn't there and have no idea which version is more accurate.)

[Easy Tiger]

LOL Every year the same old story...catch up games = huge problem.

[grandparent]

I guess it doesn't matter which version is right or wrong as both clubs still wanted to play and yes it may have been late but why not continue. Does this mean another catch up game probably and knowing ffsa most likely at Burton

[3lionsonashirt]

The people who suffer the most are the players who just wanted to play a game, who don't even care about the lines and who had no idea what was going on until they were told that the game was called off.

Everyone is just getting caught up in a miscommunication issue. It was more of a waste of time cancelling the game than it was to delay it 15 minutes! I think we're forgetting why players play the game in the first place.

[ball_girl]

The people who suffer the most are the players who just wanted to play a game, who don't even care about the lines and who had no idea what was going on until they were told that the game was called off.

Everyone is just getting caught up in a miscommunication issue. It was more of a waste of time cancelling the game than it was to delay it 15 minutes! I think we're forgetting why players play the game in the first place.

All well & good, except the game was already 10 minutes delayed when they decided to get their act together & bring over a line marker... allow another half hour to actually mark the whole pitch.

And as for the players, perhaps they did want to play, but how many complaints were going to be made when a ball wasnt called out because a line wasnt clear. Or when the keeper kicks the ball from outside the 18 yard box because the line wasnt there.
I fully support the refs decision. Its senior football. If they start allowing it to be played on unmarked pitches then the sport really is going backwards.
Maybe the players need to have some more respect for the game they love to play and not settle for treatment that isn't good enough. Just because they are girls doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

[Lucas Leiva]

The people who suffer the most are the players who just wanted to play a game, who don't even care about the lines and who had no idea what was going on until they were told that the game was called off.

Everyone is just getting caught up in a miscommunication issue. It was more of a waste of time cancelling the game than it was to delay it 15 minutes! I think we're forgetting why players play the game in the first place.

All well & good, except the game was already 10 minutes delayed when they decided to get their act together & bring over a line marker... allow another half hour to actually mark the whole pitch.

And as for the players, perhaps they did want to play, but how many complaints were going to be made when a ball wasnt called out because a line wasnt clear. Or when the keeper kicks the ball from outside the 18 yard box because the line wasnt there.
I fully support the refs decision. Its senior football. If they start allowing it to be played on unmarked pitches then the sport really is going backwards.
Maybe the players need to have some more respect for the game they love to play and not settle for treatment that isn't good enough. Just because they are girls doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

I agree with both sets of views.

On one hand, the people who end up suffering are the players, who just want to play.

On the other hand, it is the premier competition in the State, governed by the same rules as all premier competitions. You cannot ask for a 'waiver' on something as significant as touchlines and then ask the comp to treat you with respect in return in other scenarios.

As a final point - something I think all clubs should address if they haven't already - is that players should have ownership over their teams. Do players help out setting up nets, do they help pack up, or do they show up on the exact minute their coaches ask them to, go through training, and then bugger off straight away? I think the women's side of things need to be run a little like the men's in this respect. Players are the greatest source of volunteers in a game where parents / partners rarely come out on a consistent basis once players are of a driving age.

Not saying City or Cumby are like this (or any club in particular), just saying in general.

[juniorsupporter]

Has the game been rescheduled?

[snow white]

Has the game been rescheduled?

Interesting to see the outcome here.

Is there any rules that govern this situation i.e. does Cumberland have claims for more than just a rescheduled game?

[scipio africanus]

29. Abandoned Matches
(1) If any fixture is abandoned or terminated before the completion of the time specified in the
Laws of the Game or relevant competition guidelines for any reason whatsoever, the Clubs
whose teams took part in the fixture shall within 48 hours of the game submit a full report
in writing to the Competition Administrator.
(2) The FFSA or any appointed Disciplinary Committee shall have discretionary power to
determine the outcome of any abandoned game. Where the abandonment of a game has
occurred due to events outside of the control of the teams involved, the result of an
abandoned match may stand as long as at least 75% of the game has been completed.
(3) If a match is abandoned prior to or at half time all match officials will be entitled to receive
50% of their normal match fee. If the match is abandoned once the second half has
commenced, all match officials will be entitled to receive a 100% of their normal match fee.
If it is determined by the FFSA that the result of the abandoned match will stand, then the
match official will be entitled to receive a 100% of their normal match fee.

The rules don't stipulate exact penalties, but refer to a FFSA or Disciplnary Committee making a decision.

From reading I think the FFSA pr Disciplinary Committee will take into account was the abandonment of a game caused by events outside of the control of the teams involved. Is not having the lines marked outside of the control of the home team??

I'm not sure whether the game being re-scheduled here will be the automatic outcome.

[SAD GAL]

I agree with MANY of your commnets.

The girls (all of them) need to do their bit before during and after games and training. Doesn't happen. They all seem to have something better to do.

Its their game and I have always maintained that there needs to be more females involved. I suspect anytime a club ties this, the young ladies will walk away and not play. They win/lose in the long run coz their game will suffer.

The people who suffer the most are the players who just wanted to play a game, who don't even care about the lines and who had no idea what was going on until they were told that the game was called off.

Everyone is just getting caught up in a miscommunication issue. It was more of a waste of time cancelling the game than it was to delay it 15 minutes! I think we're forgetting why players play the game in the first place.

All well & good, except the game was already 10 minutes delayed when they decided to get their act together & bring over a line marker... allow another half hour to actually mark the whole pitch.

And as for the players, perhaps they did want to play, but how many complaints were going to be made when a ball wasnt called out because a line wasnt clear. Or when the keeper kicks the ball from outside the 18 yard box because the line wasnt there.
I fully support the refs decision. Its senior football. If they start allowing it to be played on unmarked pitches then the sport really is going backwards.
Maybe the players need to have some more respect for the game they love to play and not settle for treatment that isn't good enough. Just because they are girls doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

I agree with both sets of views.

On one hand, the people who end up suffering are the players, who just want to play.

On the other hand, it is the premier competition in the State, governed by the same rules as all premier competitions. You cannot ask for a 'waiver' on something as significant as touchlines and then ask the comp to treat you with respect in return in other scenarios.

As a final point - something I think all clubs should address if they haven't already - is that players should have ownership over their teams. Do players help out setting up nets, do they help pack up, or do they show up on the exact minute their coaches ask them to, go through training, and then bugger off straight away? I think the women's side of things need to be run a little like the men's in this respect. Players are the greatest source of volunteers in a game where parents / partners rarely come out on a consistent basis once players are of a driving age.

Not saying City or Cumby are like this (or any club in particular), just saying in general.

[southern]

Finally some sense from someone who was there. Thanks for that HM. Hope ref was put to the question. Common sense seems in short supply there.

I was there also. Whilst some lines were very faintly visible (& only when you were up close), others were non existant... the ref asked early for this to be rectified and 15 minutes after this request someone from Adelaide City came over with a single SPRAY CAN to try to mark the lines. Not only was the result a wonky line, it was also still not very clear.

The game was due to start at 7. It was requested at 6.30 to have the lines remarked, to which everyone was told that "someone was coming". It seemed awfully convenient that once the ref decided the game was not going to go ahead at 10 past 7 (after 2 phone calls to Tracey Dicer & a failed attempt at using a spray can), that the line marker suddenly appeared.

The line was still being marked when we left at 7.40.

Its with the FFSA now. Whats the procedure when a catch up game is called off? Does the home team have to forfeit? Or will it be rescheduled?

So did the ref make a decision like that only 10 minutes after k.o.? I have been to games that had to be delayed for longer because the referee was late! Shouldn't the ref wait a bit more, like 30 min or so? What a joker!

Totally right who was saying that the ones who suffer are the girls and the volunteers...

[voldemort]

29. Abandoned Matches
(1) If any fixture is abandoned or terminated before the completion of the time specified in the
Laws of the Game or relevant competition guidelines for any reason whatsoever, the Clubs
whose teams took part in the fixture shall within 48 hours of the game submit a full report
in writing to the Competition Administrator.
(2) The FFSA or any appointed Disciplinary Committee shall have discretionary power to
determine the outcome of any abandoned game. Where the abandonment of a game has
occurred due to events outside of the control of the teams involved, the result of an
abandoned match may stand as long as at least 75% of the game has been completed.
(3) If a match is abandoned prior to or at half time all match officials will be entitled to receive
50% of their normal match fee. If the match is abandoned once the second half has
commenced, all match officials will be entitled to receive a 100% of their normal match fee.
If it is determined by the FFSA that the result of the abandoned match will stand, then the
match official will be entitled to receive a 100% of their normal match fee.

The rules don't stipulate exact penalties, but refer to a FFSA or Disciplnary Committee making a decision.

From reading I think the FFSA pr Disciplinary Committee will take into account was the abandonment of a game caused by events outside of the control of the teams involved. Is not having the lines marked outside of the control of the home team??

I'm not sure whether the game being re-scheduled here will be the automatic outcome.

As City are the 'Home' team they nominated and arranged the catch up game date and pitch one would presume surely their responsibility to have the pitch prepared and ready for KO.
Hard to see on what grounds they can avoid a forfeit now if FFSA is going to be consistent in its decision making.
How annoying for Cumby, organizing a team to play, getting them out only to have the pitch not prepared, wouldn't be too happy