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I thought it was 2 years initially (meaning his contract is up at seasons end). But it could be longer....
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Two years, so last season in charge of W League? What next for DE and The Lady Reds then?
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has been sniffing around for the MVFC ladies job
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if true, this is pretty unprofessional in my eyes. Sends a very poor message to his existing players that he is bailing to a rival club and seeking greener pastures, not to mention what the employer thinks.gee_kay wrote:has been sniffing around for the MVFC ladies job
Everyone is entitled to go about applying for new jobs, that goes without saying and I'm not surprised in the slightest, but my disappointment is at least show discretion and keep it 'in-house' until such time you have successfully won the position. I thought that publicly declaring he would go for the Mathilda's job should have been kept to himself, but you can sort of justify it by arguing its a step up to a national job, but this is a application to a rival club, during the season and on the actual eve of playing MVFC!
If true, and in the advent he doesn't get the MVFC job, its hardly an inspiring case to re-appoint someone who is actively seeking to bail at the earliest opportunity.
The only caveat I give though, is if he has already been told by FFSA that his contract will not be renewed. If this is the case, then ignore what I have written

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Didn't the Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane coaches all apply for the Matildas position too? Are they all wrong for doing so or just DE?
Also he was asked in an interview if he would apply for the job, he said obviously it was the top position in women's football so it was of interest, not sure there is too much wrong in that!
As for the Melbourne position, first I've heard of that and I would suggest that is just more rumour to stir stuff up the day before playing Melbourne!
This forum, especially womens football section is poisonous and of no benefit to the game, such a shame!
Also he was asked in an interview if he would apply for the job, he said obviously it was the top position in women's football so it was of interest, not sure there is too much wrong in that!
As for the Melbourne position, first I've heard of that and I would suggest that is just more rumour to stir stuff up the day before playing Melbourne!
This forum, especially womens football section is poisonous and of no benefit to the game, such a shame!
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Right on cueQuantoQuesta wrote:Didn't the Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane coaches all apply for the Matildas position too? Are they all wrong for doing so or just DE?
Also he was asked in an interview if he would apply for the job, he said obviously it was the top position in women's football so it was of interest, not sure there is too much wrong in that!
As for the Melbourne position, first I've heard of that and I would suggest that is just more rumour to stir stuff up the day before playing Melbourne!
This forum, especially womens football section is poisonous and of no benefit to the game, such a shame!

First of all, I specifically stated that nothing wrong with applying for any position, but when its outside your current employer, its prudent and professional to be discrete about it. I even went further to specifically call out the Mathilda job as an exception, but it appears you read only what you want to read.
I also said more than once, 'if its true' ...
Unless your DE or closely associated with him, then the fact you only heard the rumour for the first time today is irrelevant to the question of whether its true or not.
You say this forum is poisonous, yet you use it to blame the clubs and volunteers on the current crisis. So when it suits, dishing out the 'poison' to support your own position is fine it seems.
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I hope he does stay at least one more season, now that he has got to know a bit more about the state of the game in SA.
I am sure he is as disappointed as anyone about how the LR are going, he probably came over here with big ambitions, thinking it was going to be easy, particularly with the help of the NZ imports, under estimated the strength our competition, and the other teams, as a lot of foreign coaches do.
Now that he knows more about our players,our culture,and the opposition, he will already be one step ahead of where he was at the beginning of this current season, and if he is anything like most of us, he will already be fired up and motivated about preparing a squad for next season's W League, and this will eventually rub off onto the players.
If Dave E is passionate about women's football in this state, then as a nuetral coach not tied up to any local club, with his qualifications,he may be able to get all the clubs together and have a brainstorming session, as to why the competition is struggling, and what they can all do to survive. The hardest thing with these sessions, is for a minority of the clubs to put their egos in their back pockets, and look at the bigger picture, if they cant do that, it will be a futile exercise.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we have all made comments on who shouldve had the coaching gig, particularly when you look at the top 3 sides of the A League, all coached by locals,who understand not only the competition, but our culture which is important.
So Dave, if your heart is here and you want to continue with a strong passion to do better, I hope you are given the chance to do so, either way I wish you good luck mate.
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I am sure he is as disappointed as anyone about how the LR are going, he probably came over here with big ambitions, thinking it was going to be easy, particularly with the help of the NZ imports, under estimated the strength our competition, and the other teams, as a lot of foreign coaches do.
Now that he knows more about our players,our culture,and the opposition, he will already be one step ahead of where he was at the beginning of this current season, and if he is anything like most of us, he will already be fired up and motivated about preparing a squad for next season's W League, and this will eventually rub off onto the players.
If Dave E is passionate about women's football in this state, then as a nuetral coach not tied up to any local club, with his qualifications,he may be able to get all the clubs together and have a brainstorming session, as to why the competition is struggling, and what they can all do to survive. The hardest thing with these sessions, is for a minority of the clubs to put their egos in their back pockets, and look at the bigger picture, if they cant do that, it will be a futile exercise.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we have all made comments on who shouldve had the coaching gig, particularly when you look at the top 3 sides of the A League, all coached by locals,who understand not only the competition, but our culture which is important.
So Dave, if your heart is here and you want to continue with a strong passion to do better, I hope you are given the chance to do so, either way I wish you good luck mate.
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IMO given what he walked into , he should be given a 3rd year if he is willing.
He has had time to implement his changes as he saw fit and to walk now would be almost like putting up the white flag ... Is he a quitter ?
He would have a much better idea of the needs after a 2nd season and "hopefully" would bring ( recruit) more relevant players to positions required - IE attacking midfield .
Signing up Moore would be a massive help too...
He has had time to implement his changes as he saw fit and to walk now would be almost like putting up the white flag ... Is he a quitter ?
He would have a much better idea of the needs after a 2nd season and "hopefully" would bring ( recruit) more relevant players to positions required - IE attacking midfield .
Signing up Moore would be a massive help too...
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"He has had time to implement his changes as he saw fit and to walk now would be almost like putting up the white flag" ... Is he a quitter ?
So , maybe he's a quitter ....
So , maybe he's a quitter ....

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Are you implying he has another job lined up?Bagman wrote:"He has had time to implement his changes as he saw fit and to walk now would be almost like putting up the white flag" ... Is he a quitter ?
So , maybe he's a quitter ....
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As I said - Quitter !!
NTC txt come to a lot of girls / families , so NTC to be coached by who ?
Melbourne's coach ....

NTC txt come to a lot of girls / families , so NTC to be coached by who ?
Melbourne's coach ....
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Technically not a quitter as he has seen out his contract, why would you stay if you have a chance to coach the Victory who are on the upm and their coach has just stepped up into the A League?Bagman wrote:As I said - Quitter !!![]()
NTC txt come to a lot of girls / families , so NTC to be coached by who ?
Melbourne's coach ....
Obvious career choice.

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Obvious career choice - yes . Perhaps Melbourne should have looked harder !
Maybe we can do a lot better too , 2 seasons - 2 wooden spoons .
Im sure MB would have a wry smile...
Maybe we can do a lot better too , 2 seasons - 2 wooden spoons .
Im sure MB would have a wry smile...
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Ok so MB (A successful super league coach) and DE a well accredited coach have both done pretty close to nothing with the Lady Reds, what makes anyone think yet another coach isn't going to get the same results, well unless Pep Guardiola turns up.
To build a great building you need a solid foundation, from what I have seen in women's football here that doesn't exist. Ok you guys aren't happy with how the FFSA are running the lady reds, is there much difference to how AU ran them? So 2 different groups have run them and achieved the same result, so what get another party to run them?
All I read on this forum is finger pointing and blaming others, this player quit because the league was restructured or wasn't picked in a state squad... Other than a minor few women's football here is just social so maybe re-evaluate your expect ions because from here I can't see it going anywhere in a hurry.
To build a great building you need a solid foundation, from what I have seen in women's football here that doesn't exist. Ok you guys aren't happy with how the FFSA are running the lady reds, is there much difference to how AU ran them? So 2 different groups have run them and achieved the same result, so what get another party to run them?
All I read on this forum is finger pointing and blaming others, this player quit because the league was restructured or wasn't picked in a state squad... Other than a minor few women's football here is just social so maybe re-evaluate your expect ions because from here I can't see it going anywhere in a hurry.
