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The Kop wrote:OK let’s sidetrack then :lol:
So those three players back who are all starters don’t add to the quality of the side moving Henderson, Downing and Enrique to the bench??

Thought not…..
Even with those 3 back...your squad has no depth and God forbid Suarez gets injured.

And been were you are on the ladder will not help your chances come January for new signings.
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Stewie Griffin wrote:
The Kop wrote:OK let’s sidetrack then :lol:
So those three players back who are all starters don’t add to the quality of the side moving Henderson, Downing and Enrique to the bench??

Thought not…..
Even with those 3 back...your squad has no depth and God forbid Suarez gets injured.

And been were you are on the ladder will not help your chances come January for new signings.
This is our depth being tested all season so far. Depth argument has weight when your strongest XI plays and there are no results.
We haven’t had our strongest XI on the park all season.

If our depth can draw with Everton and Newcastle and make a good contest out of Tottenham away which are all supposedly better squads than Liverpool. Then what will happen when Liverpool fields an injury free team?
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The Kop wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote:
The Kop wrote:OK let’s sidetrack then :lol:
So those three players back who are all starters don’t add to the quality of the side moving Henderson, Downing and Enrique to the bench??

Thought not…..
Even with those 3 back...your squad has no depth and God forbid Suarez gets injured.

And been were you are on the ladder will not help your chances come January for new signings.
This is our depth being tested all season so far. Depth argument has weight when your strongest XI plays and there are no results.
We haven’t had our strongest XI on the park all season.

If our depth can draw with Everton and Newcastle and make a good contest out of Tottenham away which are all supposedly better squads than Liverpool. Then what will happen when Liverpool fields an injury free team?
Does any team ever manage that?
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WBA’s only injury to a starting XI player has been Foster. Hence their strong start.
When their depth is tested, hence their fall – as is Newcastle’s depth is being tested now.
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Gareth Bale.....

has now scored more Premier League goals for Liverpool in the Premier League than Stewart Downing.
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The Kop wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote:
The Kop wrote:OK let’s sidetrack then :lol:
So those three players back who are all starters don’t add to the quality of the side moving Henderson, Downing and Enrique to the bench??

Thought not…..
Even with those 3 back...your squad has no depth and God forbid Suarez gets injured.

And been were you are on the ladder will not help your chances come January for new signings.
This is our depth being tested all season so far. Depth argument has weight when your strongest XI plays and there are no results.
We haven’t had our strongest XI on the park all season.

If our depth can draw with Everton and Newcastle and make a good contest out of Tottenham away which are all supposedly better squads than Liverpool. Then what will happen when Liverpool fields an injury free team?

Despite your "current" lack of depth, your position on the table is inexcusable.
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The Kop wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote:
The Kop wrote:OK let’s sidetrack then :lol:
So those three players back who are all starters don’t add to the quality of the side moving Henderson, Downing and Enrique to the bench??

Thought not…..
Even with those 3 back...your squad has no depth and God forbid Suarez gets injured.

And been were you are on the ladder will not help your chances come January for new signings.
This is our depth being tested all season so far. Depth argument has weight when your strongest XI plays and there are no results.
We haven’t had our strongest XI on the park all season.

If our depth can draw with Everton and Newcastle and make a good contest out of Tottenham away which are all supposedly better squads than Liverpool. Then what will happen when Liverpool fields an injury free team?
Based on what I've seen I'm surprised you want Borini back in, as well as Enrique out.

Henderson is bad though lol. I'd start Shelvey over him every time. Time to sell that trashcan asap and cut your losses methinks.
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At least Borini makes runs ahead of the ball, he’d have a few this season just being in the box if fit.
Can’t fault Enrique’s effort but he isn’t very intelligent at left wing, makes the wrong decision 9 times out of 10.

Shelvey’s no better than Hendo. Hendo needs to play a deeper role. Anyway, as I’ve said above, Lucas will be back add balance to the midfield and send Gerrard to further forward to play off Suarez.
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not only he's a talent player,but also he's a talent actor :lol:
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I thought Henderson was gonna be 'world class'?
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Jimbob wrote:I thought Henderson was gonna be 'world class'?
Give him time, he's waiting for Downing to lead the way. :lol:
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
Jimbob wrote:I thought Henderson was gonna be 'world class'?
Give him time, he's waiting for Downing to lead the way. :lol:
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The Kop wrote:At least Borini makes runs ahead of the ball, he’d have a few this season just being in the box if fit.
Can’t fault Enrique’s effort but he isn’t very intelligent at left wing, makes the wrong decision 9 times out of 10.

Shelvey’s no better than Hendo. Hendo needs to play a deeper role. Anyway, as I’ve said above, Lucas will be back add balance to the midfield and send Gerrard to further forward to play off Suarez.
Fair enough. Enrique is very comfortable on the ball, I think he could be a hit where hes playing at the moment. At the very least he will stop Downing playing there.

Henderson and Shelvey might be pretty similar skillwise but I'd rather play Shelvey for his attitude. Call him a nutter but he flies around the pitch and really puts in the effort. Henderson to me looks like hes in cruise mode. Liverpool really played very well after 20mins today and I didn't even notice Henderson, not surprised he was subbed at 60 or so.
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Jimbob wrote:I thought Henderson was gonna be 'world class'?
Couldn't even get in the Millwall side.
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:lol: :lol: let's not get too carried away eh.

He's still your England U/21 captain.
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The Kop wrote::lol: :lol: let's not get too carried away eh.

He's still your England U/21 captain.

I'm amazed by that but good on him. Still couldn't get in the Millwall side.
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Being Liverpool = being very average for last 5 years!
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Lol at Henderson haters.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
LOL at the Liverpool supporters with their red-tinted glasses. He's been garbage, as has Downing, as has Cole, as was Carroll, and Shelvey, Borini, Allen have all been OK but average, but you can't admit it. It doesn't mean Rodgers won't get them playing well in the future, but it hasn't happened yet.

Objectivity lessons required for Pool fans :wink:
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.

I don't hate him, I quite rate him in fact but Millwall are just pretty strong at the moment which is why he wouldn't get in our side. On the bench is the best he can hope for.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
Lol at people who complain about the forum's quality then post shit like this.

Yeah we get it, you know way more about football than anyone. Please, enlighten me. What was I so incorrect about?
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Mato wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
Lol at people who complain about the forum's quality then post cabernet like this.

Yeah we get it, you know way more about football than anyone. Please, enlighten me. What was I so incorrect about?
I think you're incorrect saying Henderson and Shelvey are similar skill-wise. They're clearly not.

Henderson has excellent skill and touch but has the mental determination of an fig leaf. Shelvey's touches sometimes puts Carlton Palmer to shame but he's always up for a contest and will give everything.

Henderson's problem is fixable and gets better with age. Shelvey's skill won't improve drastically from here.

Willing to put my nuts on the block and say Henderson will enjoy a better more prosperous career than Shelvey.
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The Kop wrote:
Mato wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
Lol at people who complain about the forum's quality then post cabernet like this.

Yeah we get it, you know way more about football than anyone. Please, enlighten me. What was I so incorrect about?
I think you're incorrect saying Henderson and Shelvey are similar skill-wise. They're clearly not.

Henderson has excellent skill and touch but has the mental determination of an fig leaf. Shelvey's touches sometimes puts Carlton Palmer to shame but he's always up for a contest and will give everything.

Henderson's problem is fixable and gets better with age. Shelvey's skill won't improve drastically from here.

Willing to put my nuts on the block and say Henderson will enjoy a better more prosperous career than Shelvey.
Must look for my hammer later :lol:
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The Kop wrote:
Mato wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
Lol at people who complain about the forum's quality then post cabernet like this.

Yeah we get it, you know way more about football than anyone. Please, enlighten me. What was I so incorrect about?
I think you're incorrect saying Henderson and Shelvey are similar skill-wise. They're clearly not.

Henderson has excellent skill and touch but has the mental determination of an fig leaf. Shelvey's touches sometimes puts Carlton Palmer to shame but he's always up for a contest and will give everything.

Henderson's problem is fixable and gets better with age. Shelvey's skill won't improve drastically from here.

Willing to put my nuts on the block and say Henderson will enjoy a better more prosperous career than Shelvey.
Or, maybe Shelvey will improve because he has a great attitude and forge a decent career for himself a la Phil Neville and Henderson will just fade away because he's a soft cock?
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So does Gareth Bale play for Liverpool or not?
Time for some righteous indignation
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He desperately wants to cant you see, even dove and hit the back of the net for us!
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The Kop wrote:
Mato wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at Henderson haters.
Lol at people who complain about the forum's quality then post cabernet like this.

Yeah we get it, you know way more about football than anyone. Please, enlighten me. What was I so incorrect about?
I think you're incorrect saying Henderson and Shelvey are similar skill-wise. They're clearly not.

Henderson has excellent skill and touch but has the mental determination of an fig leaf. Shelvey's touches sometimes puts Carlton Palmer to shame but he's always up for a contest and will give everything.

Henderson's problem is fixable and gets better with age. Shelvey's skill won't improve drastically from here.

Willing to put my nuts on the block and say Henderson will enjoy a better more prosperous career than Shelvey.
Its probably too early in both careers to tell.

But either way I guess im not a "Henderson hater" as much as a "Henderson realist".
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Jimbob wrote:Or, maybe Shelvey will improve because he has a great attitude and forge a decent career for himself a la Phil Neville and Henderson will just fade away because he's a soft grenache?
Yeah, 'cos Spain's and Spanish teams have really suffered from being a bunch of "soft cocks" compared to the English.
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Chade wrote:
Jimbob wrote:Or, maybe Shelvey will improve because he has a great attitude and forge a decent career for himself a la Phil Neville and Henderson will just fade away because he's a soft grenache?
Yeah, 'cos Spain's and Spanish teams have really suffered from being a bunch of "soft cocks" compared to the English.
and I know what i prefer watching.
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Chade wrote:
Jimbob wrote:Or, maybe Shelvey will improve because he has a great attitude and forge a decent career for himself a la Phil Neville and Henderson will just fade away because he's a soft grenache?
Yeah, 'cos Spain's and Spanish teams have really suffered from being a bunch of "soft cocks" compared to the English.
I agree, but those Spanish players don't tend to have the 'mental determination of an fig leaf'
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