Lady Reds vs Sydney FC

[Red-4-Life]

Adelaide United v Sydney FC
Saturday 24 November 2012
Burton Park, Adelaide
Local kick-off: 2pm

Referee: Renee Silvester

After a promising start to the season, Adelaide United have started to creak in recent weeks having lost four on the trot and conceding 13 goals in their five outings to date.

They will be relived to be facing a Sydney FC weakened by the absence of some of their big names, though the Sky Blues side still possesses significant quality and experience.

Adelaide’s forward line of Racheal Quigley, Sarah McLaughlin and Marijana Rajcic are capable of damaging any defence on their day, and coach Dave Edmondson will be wanting his attackers to test a relatively youthful Sky Blues defence.

Despite the absence of four key players on Matildas duty, Sydney FC are reinforced for their visit to Adelaide by the timely return of Ellyse Perry from a hamstring strain.

Striker Brittany Whitfield is back from injury, while last week saw the introduction of Doncaster Belles attacker Lillie Fenlon-Billson, plus the welcome return of redoubtable midfielder Kylie Ledbrook.

On the back of consecutive defeats, anything other than three points will be unthinkable for a Sydney side with high expectations.

Adelaide United squad: 1. Kristi HARVEY (gk), 3. Alex NATOLI, 4. Jessie WHAREPOURI, 5. Abby ERCEG (c), 7. Racheal QUIGLEY, 8. Sarah McLAUGHLIN, 9. Marijana RAJCIC, 11. Grace HENRY, 12. Elise WHORLOW, 13. Ann MAYO, 14. Lorena MAGGIO, 16. Jess WATERHOUSE, 17. Laura JOHNS, 18. Georgia MACRI, 19. Holly PATTERSON

Ins: 4. Jessie WHAREPOURI, 17. Laura JOHNS (both promoted)
Outs: 2. Ruth WALLACE, 6. Cassie TSOUMBRIS (both omitted)
Unavailable: 15. Emma CHECKER (national team duty)

Sydney FC squad: 1. Sian MCLAREN (gk), 2. Teresa POLIAS, 3. Elizabeth RALSTON, 5. Meg McLAUGHLIN, 7. Nicola BOLGER, 8. Amy HARRISON, 10. Renee ROLLASON, 11. Annalie LONGO, 12. Chloe LOGARZO, 13. Larissa CRUMMER, 16. Ellyse PERRY, 18. Brittany WHITFIELD, 19. Emma KETE, 20. Sham KHAMIS (gk), 21. Kylie LEDBROOK, 22. Lillie FENLON-BILLSON (* one to be omitted)

Ins: Ellyse Perry, Brittany Whitfield (both return from injury)
Outs: Hannah Bromley (omitted)
Unavailable: Sam KERR, Caitlin FOORD, Alanna KENNEDY, Kyah SIMON (all national team duty), Natalie TOBIN, (calf – 2 to 4 weeks)

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/new ... nd-6/53690

Sydney 3-1

[scipio africanus]

With a host of mathilda's out for Sydney, this is our best chance to cause an upset. Perth minus their big guns, beat Sydney last week.

Last weeks disappointment in Newcastle should provide the motivation to step back up.

C'mon lady reds!

[QuantoQuesta]

Sydney still with 4 current or recent Matilda's plus Emma Kete! Fear they will be too strong for the lady reds!

[Bagman]

Its going to be hard work in the heat , but with the omissions for Sydney this is our best chance..

If it comes down to fitness because of the heat i fear late goals for Sydney .

'Com on' Red Ladies - Good Luck !!

[voldemort]

Sydney without Matildas and the Lady Red loss last week - time to bounce back

Need to turn 55% possession into some goals without conceding

Comfortable 2:1 win for the Lady Reds!

[Caretaker Coach]

I thought Sydney were made to look terrible last week, nothing less then a win for the Reds will do, if we are serious about being serious in this competition.

[Bagman]

2-0 down at half time...

With about 20% of possession by the looks

[Red-4-Life]

very ordinary today, the heat didn't help and thats where sydney's fitness prevailed.

There was a few good patches of play but lack that edge up front

[Bagman]

There was a few good patches of play but lack that edge up front

Same as the last 3 seasons , if you can't score you never win ..
We have not had a scoring forward for 3+ years.

How longs the contract DE ?


Also , why do we have great lighting at Burton , yet late in November the girls have to play in the hottest part of the day ,
It is stupid programming that the November and December aren't all night games..

[snow white]

very ordinary today, the heat didn't help and thats where sydney's fitness prevailed.

There was a few good patches of play but lack that edge up front

Heat is a cop out. Sydney dominated from the kick off. Score could hav easily been 6 nil plus. Sydney keeper barely raised a sweat. High possession rates in your defensive third where the ball is passed sideways and backwards is meaningless, especially when first attempt to go forward results in a turn over.

There is no link from midfield to attack, which is starved of opportunities and service.

5 losses in a row, defensive record now in shambles and we haven't scored from open play since round one and today we got smashed by a team missing their 5 best players. Same team who lost to Perth who managed the feat without their best players.

Simplistic slogans that 'we are playing out from the back' like that is the only way to play good and successful football is meaningless.

Time for change.

[Red-4-Life]

very ordinary today, the heat didn't help and thats where sydney's fitness prevailed.

There was a few good patches of play but lack that edge up front

Heat is a cop out. Sydney dominated from the kick off. Score could hav easily been 6 nil plus. Sydney keeper barely raised a sweat. High possession rates in your defensive third where the ball is passed sideways and backwards is meaningless, especially when first attempt to go forward results in a turn over.

There is no link from midfield to attack, which is starved of opportunities and service.

5 losses in a row, defensive record now in shambles and we haven't scored from open play since round one and today we got smashed by a team missing their 5 best players. Same team who lost to Perth who managed the feat without their best players.

Simplistic slogans that 'we are playing out from the back' like that is the only way to play good and successful football is meaningless.

Time for change.

Can't say I disagree with that

[QuantoQuesta]

There is no goal scoring threat! MJ and Quigs so unfit that they are never going to get in the box for crosses or go past a defender!

Patterson looked a threat when she was moved forward!

Embarrassing that fitness is still so poor though! Heat was bad for both teams but Sydney managed to play in it, who had to go off inside 15 mins for the lady reds (?) and Quigs and MJ were pretty much walking around after 20mins!

Whenever KH kicked longer her distribution was poor! Waterhouse and McLaughlin worked well together in the midfield IMO.

[scipio africanus]

With a host of mathilda's out for Sydney, this is our best chance to cause an upset. Perth minus their big guns, beat Sydney last week.

Last weeks disappointment in Newcastle should provide the motivation to step back up.

C'mon lady reds!

I think I'm going to retire from making pre-match predictions

Feel sorry for the girls ... I know how much work and dedication some of them put in.

Found it interesting that at 3 nil down, Mj was replaced with a midfielder and only at 4 nil down, with about 15 minutes to go, that some sort of tactical switch was made.

Clearly evident after 20 minutes that things went working. We were lucky to be only 2 nil down at half time, at which point changes should have been made, to give a chance to get back into the game, before score blew out.

Finally, saddened to see Ruth Wallace out of the squad altogether. I thought she was great in the prem league this year and would have been more than handy off the bench, if not the starting 11. Injured perhaps???

[scipio africanus]

There is no goal scoring threat! MJ and Quigs so unfit that they are never going to get in the box for crosses or go past a defender!

Patterson looked a threat when she was moved forward!

Embarrassing that fitness is still so poor though! Heat was bad for both teams but Sydney managed to play in it, who had to go off inside 15 mins for the lady reds (?) and Quigs and MJ were pretty much walking around after 20mins!

Whenever KH kicked longer her distribution was poor! Waterhouse and McLaughlin worked well together in the midfield IMO.

To be fair, and as pointed out by Snow White, service to our strikers in dangerous attacking areas was virtually non-existent. Transition from midfield to attack is badly disconnected.

And to think we had in our hands the like of Katrina Gorry, virtually the only interstate player who we have recruited and was a class above, who would have been the perfect ball carrying, creative mid that we have always lacked.

[Drusetta]

Disapponting performance from Adel Utd.

Got outplayed in the final (our defensive) third.
No. 22 movement off the ball wasn't tracked and she cut us apart.

We controlled the midfield for most of the second half but couldn't translate that to goal scoring chances.

I wonder if Racheal Quigley starting up front as alone striker with 3 attacking midfielders (in a 4-2-3-1 formation) would have been more effectivee. Then again, we're all smarter in hind sight.

I'm sure DE is working the players, tactics and strategies as best he can.

[voldemort]

There is no goal scoring threat! MJ and Quigs so unfit that they are never going to get in the box for crosses or go past a defender!

Patterson looked a threat when she was moved forward!

Embarrassing that fitness is still so poor though! Heat was bad for both teams but Sydney managed to play in it, who had to go off inside 15 mins for the lady reds (?) and Quigs and MJ were pretty much walking around after 20mins!

Whenever KH kicked longer her distribution was poor! Waterhouse and McLaughlin worked well together in the midfield IMO.

QQ seems a bit tough to single out a couple of players.
If we revisit the DE blog we’ll be reminded the players have been training 8-10 times per week
To say they aren’t fit - how many sessions would it take?

“Many of these young women are training 8-10 times per week now, on top of their school, university and work commitments.”
“SO finally for the glass half full people out there, the Lady Reds are fitter and more organised than last season.”
http://www.ffsa.com.au/home/news-archiv ... ds-update/

Really so many of the statements in the recent blog are coming back to haunt…lets hope we we don’t get in to blaming the Premier League or FFSA/FFA for the structure of the season.

"Could the preparation be better, of course it could. The Women’s Premier League could finish a little sooner to give the W-League squad longer together before the season, the gap between the Women’s Premier League and the W-League could be closer and this is an area that both the FFA and FFSA are addressing."

"We have a more balanced and competitive squad."
5 or so games to go is it? Still time I guess

"Three warm up games have been arranged in the past month with one internal game during the STIC tournament and another on the weekend against the FFSA Boys Development squad.

There will be a third pre-season hit-out on Thursday night again against the FFSA Boys, which should give the team a real test."

Final observation from today - 3 trials games, one an internal for a tough National competition was never going to be enough preparation games.
Those other two games were against development squads playing 1433 with strict ball and passing possession hardly a good preparation against teams that will do what is necessary to win.
Wise in hindsight, no - said and thought it at the time of watching those games - but no point saying so just get accused of being defeatist.
What Prem coach here would be happy with 2 external trials if they were competing in a National comp?
None that I can think of.

[QuantoQuesta]

There is no goal scoring threat! MJ and Quigs so unfit that they are never going to get in the box for crosses or go past a defender!

Patterson looked a threat when she was moved forward!

Embarrassing that fitness is still so poor though! Heat was bad for both teams but Sydney managed to play in it, who had to go off inside 15 mins for the lady reds (?) and Quigs and MJ were pretty much walking around after 20mins!

Whenever KH kicked longer her distribution was poor! Waterhouse and McLaughlin worked well together in the midfield IMO.

QQ seems a bit tough to single out a couple of players.
If we revisit the DE blog we’ll be reminded the players have been training 8-10 times per week
To say they aren’t fit - how many sessions would it take?

“Many of these young women are training 8-10 times per week now, on top of their school, university and work commitments.”
“SO finally for the glass half full people out there, the Lady Reds are fitter and more organised than last season.”
http://www.ffsa.com.au/home/news-archiv ... ds-update/

Really so many of the statements in the recent blog are coming back to haunt…lets hope we we don’t get in to blaming the Premier League or FFSA/FFA for the structure of the season.

"Could the preparation be better, of course it could. The Women’s Premier League could finish a little sooner to give the W-League squad longer together before the season, the gap between the Women’s Premier League and the W-League could be closer and this is an area that both the FFA and FFSA are addressing."

"We have a more balanced and competitive squad."
5 or so games to go is it? Still time I guess

"Three warm up games have been arranged in the past month with one internal game during the STIC tournament and another on the weekend against the FFSA Boys Development squad.

There will be a third pre-season hit-out on Thursday night again against the FFSA Boys, which should give the team a real test."

Final observation from today - 3 trials games, one an internal for a tough National competition was never going to be enough preparation games.
Those other two games were against development squads playing 1433 with strict ball and passing possession hardly a good preparation against teams that will do what is necessary to win.
Wise in hindsight, no - said and thought it at the time of watching those games - but no point saying so just get accused of being defeatist.
What Prem coach here would be happy with 2 external trials if they were competing in a National comp?
None that I can think of.

So blog said many are training 8-10 times... Are all??? Are The two mentioned?

If the team stopped playing out and played more direct, would that work without a pacey striker?

Gorry was excellent when we had her in Adelaide but that was when MB had big $ to attract players! 6+ flying in each week that season!

[voldemort]

There is no goal scoring threat! MJ and Quigs so unfit that they are never going to get in the box for crosses or go past a defender!

Patterson looked a threat when she was moved forward!

Embarrassing that fitness is still so poor though! Heat was bad for both teams but Sydney managed to play in it, who had to go off inside 15 mins for the lady reds (?) and Quigs and MJ were pretty much walking around after 20mins!

Whenever KH kicked longer her distribution was poor! Waterhouse and McLaughlin worked well together in the midfield IMO.

QQ seems a bit tough to single out a couple of players.
If we revisit the DE blog we’ll be reminded the players have been training 8-10 times per week
To say they aren’t fit - how many sessions would it take?



“Many of these young women are training 8-10 times per week now, on top of their school, university and work commitments.”
“SO finally for the glass half full people out there, the Lady Reds are fitter and more organised than last season.”
http://www.ffsa.com.au/home/news-archiv ... ds-update/

Really so many of the statements in the recent blog are coming back to haunt…lets hope we we don’t get in to blaming the Premier League or FFSA/FFA for the structure of the season.

"Could the preparation be better, of course it could. The Women’s Premier League could finish a little sooner to give the W-League squad longer together before the season, the gap between the Women’s Premier League and the W-League could be closer and this is an area that both the FFA and FFSA are addressing."

"We have a more balanced and competitive squad."
5 or so games to go is it? Still time I guess

"Three warm up games have been arranged in the past month with one internal game during the STIC tournament and another on the weekend against the FFSA Boys Development squad.

There will be a third pre-season hit-out on Thursday night again against the FFSA Boys, which should give the team a real test."

Final observation from today - 3 trials games, one an internal for a tough National competition was never going to be enough preparation games.
Those other two games were against development squads playing 1433 with strict ball and passing possession hardly a good preparation against teams that will do what is necessary to win.
Wise in hindsight, no - said and thought it at the time of watching those games - but no point saying so just get accused of being defeatist.
What Prem coach here would be happy with 2 external trials if they were competing in a National comp?
None that I can think of.

So blog said many are training 8-10 times... Are all??? Are The two mentioned?

If the team stopped playing out and played more direct, would that work without a pacey striker?

Gorry was excellent when we had her in Adelaide but that was when MB had big $ to attract players! 6+ flying in each week that season!

QQ - You haven't been living in NZ relatively recently by any chance have you?
You seem very well informed whos training or not.
Bagging a couple of players isn't going to help IMO
Now the fault is that we don't have a pacey striker so we have to persist with a system that is getting smashed...oh please....

[scipio africanus]

Like I said, unfair to blame strikers when midfield constantly changes every game and is dysfunctional. Moreover how does striker issue correlate to the team conceding 4 goals in every game? Even if ur right and strikers are unfit, there are problems all over the park.

[QuantoQuesta]

[/quote]

QQ - You haven't been living in NZ relatively recently by any chance have you?
You seem very well informed whos training or not.
Bagging a couple of players isn't going to help IMO
Now the fault is that we don't have a pacey striker so we have to persist with a system that is getting smashed...oh please....[/quote]

NEVER lived in NZ!! Would I be so annoyed with Lady reds performances if I had?? Or be aware of MB/Gorry etc..??

Not saying not having a pacy striker means Lady reds have to stick with system but if lady reds are ever going to be really competitive they need to stick with this system until they can play it! Playing long ball now because they are losing would not benefit anyone and most likely they would still lose!

Also not informed as to who is training, I was asking the question but I presume DE would not select players who weren't training, unless he has special rules for some??

Conceded 8 goals in the last 2 games when Checker has been away!?!? her pace is valuable at the back IMO.

A question...? Who should be in the Lady reds who isnt..? (No point including players who have made themselves unavailable, Papageorgiou, Balomenos, Cockayne etc..)

I would suggest;

Hayley Truskewycz
Maddie De Rieu
Dani Di Bartolo

[voldemort]

QQ - You haven't been living in NZ relatively recently by any chance have you?
You seem very well informed whos training or not.
Bagging a couple of players isn't going to help IMO
Now the fault is that we don't have a pacey striker so we have to persist with a system that is getting smashed...oh please....[/quote]

NEVER lived in NZ!! Would I be so annoyed with Lady reds performances if I had?? Or be aware of MB/Gorry etc..??

Not saying not having a pacy striker means Lady reds have to stick with system but if lady reds are ever going to be really competitive they need to stick with this system until they can play it! Playing long ball now because they are losing would not benefit anyone and most likely they would still lose!

Also not informed as to who is training, I was asking the question but I presume DE would not select players who weren't training, unless he has special rules for some??

Conceded 8 goals in the last 2 games when Checker has been away!?!? her pace is valuable at the back IMO.

A question...? Who should be in the Lady reds who isnt..? (No point including players who have made themselves unavailable, Papageorgiou, Balomenos, Cockayne etc..)

I would suggest;

Hayley Truskewycz
Maddie De Rieu
Dani Di Bartolo[/quote]


wasn't really expecting a yes answer - more tongue in cheek with your defense of the Lady Reds coach.
I don;t think anyone is suggesting a long ball game, not sure not heard that at all.
Oh btw last I recall as far as pacey strikers go Macri fitted that description quite accurately I would have thought.

[TRUTH]

When Barnett was coach they all blamed him
What has changed?????????
Still finishing bottom and now wasting money on a full time coach.

Played off the park by a under strenght Sydney team

When will FFSA wake up???????????????

[QuantoQuesta]

When Barnett was coach they all blamed him
What has changed?????????
Still finishing bottom and now wasting money on a full time coach.

Played off the park by a under strenght Sydney team

When will FFSA wake up???????????????

Isn't DE paid for by Sport and Rec? Don't think FFSA pay him to coach the Lady Reds!

[scipio africanus]

When Barnett was coach they all blamed him
What has changed?????????
Still finishing bottom and now wasting money on a full time coach.

Played off the park by a under strenght Sydney team

When will FFSA wake up???????????????

Isn't DE paid for by Sport and Rec? Don't think FFSA pay him to coach the Lady Reds!

From what I understand, definitely a FFSA employee.

[connectfour]

Like I said, unfair to blame strikers when midfield constantly changes every game and is dysfunctional. Moreover how does striker issue correlate to the team conceding 4 goals in every game? Even if ur right and strikers are unfit, there are problems all over the park.

perhaps they should train instead of standing around listening to the DE voice of advice, i called in to the shops to see how they were going during training. Standing around no training; come back after some shopping(20mins) still standing. more football less talking

[scipio africanus]

Like I said, unfair to blame strikers when midfield constantly changes every game and is dysfunctional. Moreover how does striker issue correlate to the team conceding 4 goals in every game? Even if ur right and strikers are unfit, there are problems all over the park.

perhaps they should train instead of standing around listening to the DE voice of advice, i called in to the shops to see how they were going during training. Standing around no training; come back after some shopping(20mins) still standing. more football less talking

Well if that is the case, only one person responsible for that. The players at training will do what the coaching staff tell them to do.

[richoman]

one thing which hasn`t been discussed yet is how well sydney played
also considering how they were missing 5 of their starting 11
perhaps if we were to look at how sydney went about their game
their intensity their work ethic their game plan their cohesiveness and how they went about maximizing their strengths . We would gain an understanding of what is required to compete at this level
And we would also realise that womens football is improving and is becoming an entertaining game

[voldemort]

Like I said, unfair to blame strikers when midfield constantly changes every game and is dysfunctional. Moreover how does striker issue correlate to the team conceding 4 goals in every game? Even if ur right and strikers are unfit, there are problems all over the park.

perhaps they should train instead of standing around listening to the DE voice of advice, i called in to the shops to see how they were going during training. Standing around no training; come back after some shopping(20mins) still standing. more football less talking

Classic!
Why doesn't that surprise me!
No wonder they need so many training sessions.

[Bagman]

Found it interesting that at 3 nil down, Mj was replaced with a midfielder and only at 4 nil down, with about 15 minutes to go, that some sort of tactical switch was made.

Clearly evident after 20 minutes that things went working. We were lucky to be only 2 nil down at half time, at which point changes should have been made, to give a chance to get back into the game, before score blew out.

Round 3 Canberra V Adelaide - 1-0 up until the 63 minute , 2-1 down in the 81st.minute before the first ( and only ) change...... 3-1 loss !!
Changes and adaption to the game have been non existent since day 1 .

The structure never changes whether it be 1-0 up with 30min. to go or being 3-1 down with 10 minutes to go and just hoping for a McLaughlin once a season miracle .

[BigFan]

I wonder how late the coaching staff were up 'cutting footage' last night..