Lady Reds Ready to Roar

[johnydep]

Lady Reds coach Dave Edmondson said his side is playing with enough confidence to bounce back from consecutive losses and cause Brisbane Roar plenty of problems when they meet at Hindmarsh Stadium on Saturday in Round 4 of the Westfield W-League.

Brisbane Roar are also on the back of a loss after a 3-1 defeat to Sydney last week and Edmondson expects last season’s runners-up to be eager to atone.

But, with the recent performances Adelaide United have shown, Edmondson is confident the Lady Reds will be amongst the points on Saturday.

“Brisbane has a strong side, with four or five Matildas, so they will be tough,” he said.

“With players like Katrina Gorry, Tameka Butt and Emily Gielnik they will be a force going forward and with Claire Polkinghorne and Laura Alleway at the back, they will be tough to break down.”

“But, we are playing with confidence and with the expected home support at Hindmarsh, I am sure we will be able to cause them some problems.”

“No team likes to lose and I am sure they will be looking to bounce back. As most teams and ourselves included, they will go into every game looking to win and losing last week wont change that, as it doesn’t for us.”

Despite losing 3-1 Canberra United last week, Edmondson admitted he was delighted with the performance against the defending champions.

The Lady Reds coach conceded with some notable absentees they were forced into a change of game plan and it almost paid off after taking a 1-0 lead just before half time.

However, Canberra’s star quality and experience saw them score three late goals.

“With a couple of key players out, the performance was excellent,” he said.

“We had a game plan adapted to play Canberra and for the majority of the game it worked perfectly. We denied Canberra space in behind us where they like to exploit their pace and looked to counter attack them.”

“We defended solidly and Holy Patterson, Georgia Macri and Racheal Quigley provided a real threat on the counter. So, overall a pleasing performance but not a pleasing result.”

Adelaide United v Brisbane Roar
Saturday 10 November 2012
Hindmarsh Stadium, Adelaide
Local kick-off: 1.30pm

Photo by Adam Butler

Adelaide United squad:
1. Kristi HARVEY (gk), 2. Ruth WALLACE, 3. Alex NATOLI, 5. Abby ERCEG (c), 6. Cassandra TSOUMBRIS, 7. Racheal QUIGLEY, 8. Sarah McLAUGHLIN, 9. Marijana RACJIC, 11. Grace HENRY, 12. Elise WHORLOW, 13. Ann MAYO, 14. Lorena MAGGIO, 15. Emma CHECKER, 18. Georgia MACRI, 19. Holly PATTERSON, 20. Kelly BARLTROP (gk) (*one to be omitted)

Ins: Sarah McLAUGHLIN (returns from injury), Marijana RACJIC (returns from absence)
Outs: Jenna McCORMACK, Laura JOHNS, Jessie WHAREPOURI (all omitted)
Unavailable: 16. Jess WATERHOUSE (Australia U-16)

Brisbane Roar squad:
1. Hoshimi KISHI (gk), 2. Laura ALLEWAY, 3. Amy CHAPMAN, 4. Clare POLKINGHORNE, 5. Brooke SPENCE, 6. Ashley SPINA, 7. Erika ELZE, 8. Elise KELLOND-KNIGHT, 9. Emma PITTMAN, 10. Lana HARCH, 11. Vedrana POPOVIC, 13. Tameka BUTT, 14. Georgia CHAPMAN, 15. Hannah BEARD, 16. Sachiko TATSUOKA, 17. Emily GIELNIK, 18. Kate STEWART (gk), 19. Katrina GORRY, 20. Joanne BUCKLEY (gk) (*four to be omitted)

Ins: Elise KELLOND-KINGHT (returns from injury), Tameka BUTT (returns from injury), Hannah BEARD, Joanne BUCKLEY (both promoted)
Outs: None
Unavailable: Rebecca PRICE (knee - 1 week)

[johnydep]

0:1

Easy goal for Brisbane

[johnydep]

Half time 0:1

AU have had there chances, playing quite well but Brisbane players have better spacial awerness, a d that's killing us.

Hope the coaches change the game plan. We can win this.

[johnydep]

Goals getting peppered. Now penalty.

[johnydep]

0:2

[paul merson]

Has MJ put a foot wrong yet since coming on?

Seriously need to get her on the ball more

[paul merson]

Has MJ put a foot wrong yet since coming on?

Seriously need to get her on the ball more

Sh it! There it is

[paul merson]

2 zip FT

[Red-4-Life]

Brisbane just had more in the engine. Lady Reds unlucky though, hit the post and Roar keeper made a couple good saves plus conceding a penalty

[Blotto]

ok, since everyone else won't say it in case they upset someone, I will....

AU were woeful. How can you say they were unlucky? Brisbane should've won by far more than what they did...

Can someone please tell the AU coach that his team is completely incapable of playing out from the back? It was cringe worthy watching them attempt to. If the Brisbane forwards (their number 19 I think was miles ahead of any AU player) started pressing those AU defenders (who it must be said their passing was terrible and their touch was extremely average) then Brisbane could've easily put 6 or 7 past AU...

Midfield just looked a mess and AU only started started to look like doing anything when they bought on number 9 (so late in the game that it was already lost at that stage)

Brisbane were miles ahead of AU in every aspect. Anyone thinking otherwise, is kidding themselves.

[johnydep]

I thought they played quite well from the back, it was one thing that they could do well. First touch and passing was a problem but nothing that can't be fixed. The players are talented, and will keep getting better.

Brisbane players where in a different league, they looked fitter and faster, their positioning and awerness was very good. The defense, midfield and forward was almost always linked nicely.

AU need to link up more, the defence looked strong and confident, but there was nothing to link the three lines. It look very familiar to watching some of the State teams.

Don't blame the players.

[Disillusioned]

ok, since everyone else won't say it in case they upset someone, I will....

AU were woeful. How can you say they were unlucky? Brisbane should've won by far more than what they did...

Can someone please tell the AU coach that his team is completely incapable of playing out from the back? It was cringe worthy watching them attempt to. If the Brisbane forwards (their number 19 I think was miles ahead of any AU player) started pressing those AU defenders (who it must be said their passing was terrible and their touch was extremely average) then Brisbane could've easily put 6 or 7 past AU...

Midfield just looked a mess and AU only started started to look like doing anything when they bought on number 9 (so late in the game that it was already lost at that stage)

Brisbane were miles ahead of AU in every aspect. Anyone thinking otherwise, is kidding themselves.

I kind of agree.

We dont have the skills to play out from the back, but if we dont try we will never learn.(but in saying that you also have to learn to be accountable when you turn the ball over)

Midfield was a mess, And I think they left some players out that could have been in the team.

They put no 9 on as a forward not a midfielder, And i disagree that they only started to look like doing anything when no 9 came on, No 7 hit the post with a good chip and was unlucky.(no 9 was fresh yes but dangerous no)

The problem I see is we are trying to play pretty looking soccer, rather than trying to play soccer to our advantage and win.

It seems to me the Internationals never get dragged no matter how they are playing, and to be quite honest, apart from the first game and 3 good but lucky kicks, the only one doing her job is Erceg.

Patterson doesn't defend and when she turns the ball over just gives up, She also rarely passes but when she does we look good.(takes on too many players and loses the ball to frequently)
Also doesn't know where and when to run into attack.(looks lost)

McLoughlin doesn't look fit.(3 kicks and is a star) what about the rest of the game.

We should be playing the best team on the park, not a team with certain favourite's.

IE: Should any player chosen for the team have at least trialled for the team.(not just strolled into the team)

And to end my rant let me say that I think playing the game at Hindmarsh was a mistake, we train at Burton why didn't we play there, Hindmarsh was as much a home game to them as it was to us.

[Bagman]

Brisbane just had more in the engine. Lady Reds unlucky though, hit the post and Roar keeper made a couple good saves plus conceding a penalty

R4L - your a 'glass 1/2 full' kind of supporter , which I respect, but if we lost 2-1 that would have been more than flattering.
Barring 10 min. with 3 goals in it , we don't score from field play ! We must find a scoring attacker or we will finish bottom again.

Can someone please tell the AU coach that his team is completely incapable of playing out from the back? It was cringe worthy watching them attempt to.

Keeper was fantastic , where was she last season ??
Erceg is MILES ahead of the rest of the team - Watching other athletic defenders run at 3/4 pace when chasing is a pet hate of mine and it happened far too often today , the replay highlighted it embarrassingly. Some players might be getting ahead of themselves....


Quote Disillusioned -
" Midfield was a mess, And I think they left some players out that could have been in the team.
It seems to me the Internationals never get dragged no matter how they are playing, and to be quite honest, apart from the first game and 3 good but lucky kicks, the only one doing her job is Erceg.
Patterson doesn't defend and when she turns the ball over just gives up, She also rarely passes but when she does we look good.(takes on too many players and loses the ball to frequently)
Also doesn't know where and when to run into attack.(looks lost)
McLoughlin doesn't look fit.(3 kicks and is a star) what about the rest of the game.
We should be playing the best team on the park, not a team with certain favourite's. "


*This is all spot on IMO Disillusioned , the fact we miss a 15 year old first season player SO much in the midfield is a joke.
And Patterson is leaving in November , if thats correct , she shouldn't have taken the spot of a young SA girl in the first place .
Promoting local talent would be better than giving this young girl some W-League experience - the results wouldn't be worse.

[Blotto]

Keeper was fantastic , where was she last season ??

Hmmm... she was ok. Some good saves there. Her distribution however is well below par. Some of her passes struggled to get to their destination and often put her defence well in the shit.

She communicates extremely well though.

[W-fan]

Good to see some posts questioning the coach's game plan and team selection.

The game against the Roar was lost in the mid field, poor defence and an inability to go forward.

MJ and Quigs are quality strikers but if the ball isn't getting through to them, the Lady Reds will struggle to win.

[Bagman]

Keeper was fantastic , where was she last season ??

Hmmm... she was ok. Some good saves there. Her distribution however is well below par. Some of her passes struggled to get to their destination and often put her defence well in the cabernet.

Saved 6+ good shots and the double effort before the ( offside ? ) goal was top class .
You say her 'distribution was well below par' , I disagree compared to the back 6 , but I will say she would have a sore foot because of how many passes back she had to deal with .

[Bagman]

MJ and Quigs are quality strikers but if the ball isn't getting through to them, the Lady Reds will struggle to win.

Good to see you join the forum W-fan ,

MJ and Quigley would be quality if they scored more of the golden opportunities they miss .
Having said that , Im sure the goals will come , hopefully sooner rather than later. Confidence is golden !
Shots from stoppages , Quigley is quality , goals from in play ....... I can remember 1 from last year ....

[Red-4-Life]

MJ should have started, looked really good when she came on.

While not everything may be perfect just yet, we do need to realise that the team is at least a lot more competitive this season and not getting done 6-0 every week. They put it up to Canberra and fell short, also led in perth and lost it really late. It's hard to find some people on here being positive about the team. They'll get better, just be patient

[paul merson]

KH improving every week and I thought played well yesterday, her smother on Gorry's attempt in the second half showed she's prepared to put it on the line but then a couple of minutes later had the brains to stop and get set on the next one on one forcing a shot wide.

She'd be more disappointed spilling the ball prior to the offside goal as her hands are usually safe as houses and it looked like a tired dive, thankfully didnt cost her.

I didnt see any problems with her distribution, shemade a save in the second half and instead of hanging around waiting for photo's she quickly got a throw out to her left mid who inturn lost it putting the defense under more pressure, but I wouldnt say her distribution is an issue.

As for playing out from the back, well done DE for persisting and trying to play good football, if AU scrapped a 2-1 win people will still whinge, I'd rather see them trying to play a good game then watch them just pump it, as long as they have a plan to get out and move into the next line they will get there, the problem is if they dont and theyre just improvising out from the back then it'll become costly, IMO.

But they created 2 good chances that should have been finished in the second half, they go in and it starts removing a lot of the pressure the defence and GK are under.

Thought MJ looked good (other than the miss) when she came on, she really needs to be on the ball as much as possible.

[Caretaker Coach]

Although Brisbane had more scoring opportunities, their 2 goals came from, our defense badly caught ball watching, and a penalty from a clumsy challenge - tidy those two things and we will do better.
As for playing the ball out from the back, not that hard to do if you work on it at training,just hard to know whether we lack the creativity to create space or whether the coach has a certain game plan they were trying ? I know I was always told when playing the ball out from the back third never give it to a player who is running towards you,we did that a lot. As someone has already mentioned, we looked like the ones with the jetlag.
Some positive signs there, just need to tidy up a few things.

[richoman]

+1
also does anyone know what the crowd number was
felt healthy

[QuantoQuesta]

So 3 defeats against probably the top 3 teams in the league and everyone is ripping the side to pieces!

From what I've seen, Patterson has been involved in all the Lady Reds goals this season and created the best 2 chances yesterday - well worth her place in the side!

McLaughlin, 3 great goals against Wanderers then picked up an ankle injury. Maybe she was rushed back a little soon yesterday?

Clearly missing Jess Waterhouse from the midfield, with her tenacity and quality. Wallace and Tsoumbris look a little slow and clumsy in comparison to Gorry and Butt etc. Jess would have made a difference if she had been available.

Quigley and Rajcic both look unfit for the W League and as a result only look good in patches and fail to contribute to the overall team effort, puffing and panting after every run so not available to close down the opposition defenders.

Having said that both should have scored yesterday and 2-2 suddenly tells a different story.

I for one love the fact the Lady Reds are actually trying to play football and doing it with a young side who can be involved in the W League for years to come. If Edmundson stays I think this team could really challenge in another season or two!!

[Gazelle]

I agree that it was a mistake to play at Hindmarsh. It didn't favour our strengths. Our fitness still has a lot to be desired.

With MJ and Quigs - they are both similar players. We need some variation up front. Where is our creativity? Where are our fast, dangerous strikers? It's all well and good if they have a decent kick on them and can score from distance and set plays, but is that all our strikers can offer us? These are the qualities that the attacking players lacked in the game.

All that needed to be done by the midfield was to stick with their players! Basic defending!! Brisbane executed the triangle passes and 1-2s quite well, but this could have been easily shut down if the girls just stuck with their players. Maybe the girls need to play some futsal. We could learn a thing or two from the Brazilians!

Our counter-attacks were also terrible. They always outnumbered us in our attacking half and we had very few chances at goal throughout the match.

The game that Adelaide played against Brisbane reminded me of previous seasons, which is not a good sign at all. We were on the back foot most if not all of the game.

Players such as Johns need more pitch time. She has pace and adds strength to the wing.

It was also very unimpressive to see the coach being told off by the 4th official via the live stream. If he can't keep his cool, how does he expect the team to remain composed?

A very disappointing match. If Adelaide continues this form, I won't be surprised if Erceg, among others, join other teams next season.

[paul merson]

I agree that it was a mistake to play at Hindmarsh. It didn't favour our strengths. Our fitness still has a lot to be desired.

With MJ and Quigs - they are both similar players. We need some variation up front. Where is our creativity? Where are our fast, dangerous strikers? It's all well and good if they have a decent kick on them and can score from distance and set plays, but is that all our strikers can offer us? These are the qualities that the attacking players lacked in the game.

All that needed to be done by the midfield was to stick with their players! Basic defending!! Brisbane executed the triangle passes and 1-2s quite well, but this could have been easily shut down if the girls just stuck with their players. Maybe the girls need to play some futsal. We could learn a thing or two from the Brazilians!

Our counter-attacks were also terrible. They always outnumbered us in our attacking half and we had very few chances at goal throughout the match.

The game that Adelaide played against Brisbane reminded me of previous seasons, which is not a good sign at all. We were on the back foot most if not all of the game.

Players such as Johns need more pitch time. She has pace and adds strength to the wing.

It was also very unimpressive to see the coach being told off by the 4th official via the live stream. If he can't keep his cool, how does he expect the team to remain composed?

A very disappointing match. If Adelaide continues this form, I won't be surprised if Erceg, among others, join other teams next season.

I have to say I thought MJ was creative, certainly not quick but you dont need to be quick to be creative. In saying that yes a quick striker would add a lot, the counter attacks lacked fluency, hence giving time for Bris to get numbers back.

I thought the midfield turn overs were a lot of the cause of them letting runners go, some cheap turnovers with numbers moving forward causes massive problems.

Ive always said AU shouldnt play at Hindmarsh, its just too big, but this wouldnt have been their choice, it would have been a league decision as it was a broadcast game.

[SAD GAL]

Well said Blotto.

They may think you and I are the same.

Thing is, if we keep going the same way we are and the Lady Reds will dissolve and become extinct and the W-League will be suspended for a year “to be relaunched”…and never return.

I agree that at this level the kind of tactics and competence to be shown at this level should be far higher than what we’ve seen over the last 4 seasons.

I understand players in the compo (ie Johnny Depp & Co) want to talk up the comp coz they have mates playing however, it’s a woeful and pitiful disjointed and uninspiring game to watch.

Other comments that are critical of the team and game plan are worth listening too. The problems are symptomatic of the women’s football season. I have witnessed this for over 10 years. Too many personalities and clicky groups that are formed. Lots of covert and subtle actions designed to unsettle a good player so that they are not played into the game. Always has been the case with this comp. The end justifies the means. So to read about an unsettled lady reds side is no surprise.

As far as MJ and Quigs….This has always been an issue with the women’s game. Two name strikers whereby one whom wants the limelight will be at odds with someone else who is meant to play alongside them. Goes back to the days of the Sensations and SASI. I won’t mention names here but I think each of you can recall instances where forwards were at odds with each other (that’s probably the nicest thing I can say about the perpetrator of the actions she employed to remain the star of the show).

Sad thing peoples is that we are almost halfway through then season and our faults have once again been exposed. I fear for the comp and for the future of the team.

p.s blaming Hindmarsh is silly. You don't play there and people complain.

[QuantoQuesta]

The simple truth is SA does not have the players capable of playing W League! Yet are trying to force the coach to select SA players, treating the team like a glorified state team.

No other W League team does this, players are attracted from other states with the offer of money, accommodation, cars, jobs etc. Canberra has virtually no local players in its starting line up and win the comp. Until FFSA realises this and approaches the W League professionally the team will struggle to compete.

Perth struggled last year but this year have invested heavily in recruiting players, Telford in goal from the UK, DeVanna from Sweden/Newcastle, McCollum from the UK, Gill from Canberra etc. and now they are near the top of the league.

We rely on our coach to bring internationals for next to nothing from New Zealand and sign players from our pitiful womens premier league. Imagine if Kosmina was only allowed to sign players from the men's state league for United..?

FFSA has a lot to answer for and I for one would not be surprised to see Edmunson, Erceg etc leaving for other clubs next year!

[paul merson]

Well said Blotto.

They may think you and I are the same.

Thing is, if we keep going the same way we are and the Lady Reds will dissolve and become extinct and the W-League will be suspended for a year “to be relaunched”…and never return.

I agree that at this level the kind of tactics and competence to be shown at this level should be far higher than what we’ve seen over the last 4 seasons.

I understand players in the compo (ie Johnny Depp & Co) want to talk up the comp coz they have mates playing however, it’s a woeful and pitiful disjointed and uninspiring game to watch.

Other comments that are critical of the team and game plan are worth listening too. The problems are symptomatic of the women’s football season. I have witnessed this for over 10 years. Too many personalities and clicky groups that are formed. Lots of covert and subtle actions designed to unsettle a good player so that they are not played into the game. Always has been the case with this comp. The end justifies the means. So to read about an unsettled lady reds side is no surprise.

As far as MJ and Quigs….This has always been an issue with the women’s game. Two name strikers whereby one whom wants the limelight will be at odds with someone else who is meant to play alongside them. Goes back to the days of the Sensations and SASI. I won’t mention names here but I think each of you can recall instances where forwards were at odds with each other (that’s probably the nicest thing I can say about the perpetrator of the actions she employed to remain the star of the show).

Sad thing peoples is that we are almost halfway through then season and our faults have once again been exposed. I fear for the comp and for the future of the team.

p.s blaming Hindmarsh is silly. You don't play there and people complain.

So you're saying the standard of the leagues not good enough so pull the pin?

You're right in the fact that if the W league ends that'll be it for womens football at a notional level thats why I cant see the FFA letting it go, and lets be honest its not crowd dollars thats holding the league together, its sponsors, FFA and state affiliations of the FFA.

Im not sure about all the politics ect that you speak of, I just watch the game for what it is, politics is an unfortunate part of the game they will never go away, regardless of what level you're playing at.

'Blaming' Hindmarsh yes is silly, thats not why they play the way they do, although it wouldnt have even been their choice to play there it is just stupid to play on a pitch that size when you're not winning, it just leaves you even more exposed, thats just common knowledge.

So SG where do you think AU goes from here? (serious question, I have no beef either way, I only really watch the game to watch KH play)

[johnydep]

Well said Blotto.

They may think you and I are the same.

Thing is, if we keep going the same way we are and the Lady Reds will dissolve and become extinct and the W-League will be suspended for a year “to be relaunched”…and never return.

I agree that at this level the kind of tactics and competence to be shown at this level should be far higher than what we’ve seen over the last 4 seasons.

I understand players in the compo (ie Johnny Depp & Co) want to talk up the comp coz they have mates playing however, it’s a woeful and pitiful disjointed and uninspiring game to watch.

............

I do not have any mates, relatives or acquaintance playing in the Women's League or the AU squad!

Regardless of how they play or are coached, the team is playing better football than they were two years ago. Things are improving, but there is still improvement required. The people involved need some recognition of the changes to the team, the positives must be highlighted.

Your continual criticism of the team has valid points. However, you are a 'glass half empty' type of person, and your continued highlighting of only the negatives is equivalent to 'ring-barking'.

It is you that will lead any demise in the viability of the team, with all your comments that point out the issues that need rectifying but leaving out the issues that have been rectified.

[QuantoQuesta]

Well said Blotto.

They may think you and I are the same.

Thing is, if we keep going the same way we are and the Lady Reds will dissolve and become extinct and the W-League will be suspended for a year “to be relaunched”…and never return.

I agree that at this level the kind of tactics and competence to be shown at this level should be far higher than what we’ve seen over the last 4 seasons.

I understand players in the compo (ie Johnny Depp & Co) want to talk up the comp coz they have mates playing however, it’s a woeful and pitiful disjointed and uninspiring game to watch.

Other comments that are critical of the team and game plan are worth listening too. The problems are symptomatic of the women’s football season. I have witnessed this for over 10 years. Too many personalities and clicky groups that are formed. Lots of covert and subtle actions designed to unsettle a good player so that they are not played into the game. Always has been the case with this comp. The end justifies the means. So to read about an unsettled lady reds side is no surprise.

As far as MJ and Quigs….This has always been an issue with the women’s game. Two name strikers whereby one whom wants the limelight will be at odds with someone else who is meant to play alongside them. Goes back to the days of the Sensations and SASI. I won’t mention names here but I think each of you can recall instances where forwards were at odds with each other (that’s probably the nicest thing I can say about the perpetrator of the actions she employed to remain the star of the show).

Sad thing peoples is that we are almost halfway through then season and our faults have once again been exposed. I fear for the comp and for the future of the team.

p.s blaming Hindmarsh is silly. You don't play there and people complain.

The politics you talk of could be heard from certain parents in the crowd on Saturday, demanding that the coach should change the tactics to suit their daughter... I'm glad this coach doesn't pander to the silly parents that blight the womens game her in SA!

[SAD GAL]

Mixed responses to my rant. That’s ok.

I’m not ring barking the tree and its not a glass half empty however, how many times does your thumb have to be hit before you say “this needs to stop”? What’s tiring is to hear/read….If they keep playing like this they’ll be great in 2 years time. We don’t have the time.

Look back at history the team this year is vastly different from that of two years ago. Improvement will only come from a constant ie players. The instability of the team. The pathetic attempt to throw a team together days before the comp without ANY SERIOUS TRIAL GAMES is a farce.

Sad thing is that when our local players get to the mid twenties they will go from the game. AND so the cycle continues.

Are imports the answer? NOPE.