Para hills knights junior trials question

[Left Wing Back]

Was asked a question I found interesting. don't have answer for hoping someone can confirm or deny the question I got asked.

can someone confirm parahills knights junior teams had trials by invitatation emails only this year, STIC and State players with a hand full of EDJSA high level players only invited with no notice to the general public.

I was asked when there trials where and made a call to find out they were complete. Parent would like answer as her daughter did not make STIC so wasnt contacted, but was looking at playing at the knights this year.

[juniorsupporter]

I would be very surprised if that were true. And saddened as the purpose of junior football is primarily development and inclusion, not exclusion. We are all trying to grow the women's game. Something like that would be very short sighted. Furthermore, invitation only trials are fine if you've got a good strong side just looking for a bit of shoring up, not if you're trying to grow your junior programs- when girls are young, you never know when an Emma Checker (who started playing club at 12) will rock up on your doorstep.

I also don't think you will get anyone who knows to confirm that on this forum. Would cause a bit of a s***storm.

[johnydep]

I would be very surprised if that were true. And saddened as the purpose of junior football is primarily development and inclusion, not exclusion. We are all trying to grow the women's game. Something like that would be very short sighted. Furthermore, invitation only trials are fine if you've got a good strong side just looking for a bit of shoring up, not if you're trying to grow your junior programs- when girls are young, you never know when an Emma Checker (who started playing club at 12) will rock up on your doorstep.

Agreed, well said.

[Shankland]

I was at the United trials last Sunday. Some of the girls from United went over to the Knights (Juniors) session to have a look. Apparently there were only 14 girls participating in the session. One of those girls left the session and approached the United trials.

I note on the Knights website that they have advertised for U17, U15, U13 for the 2012 session maybe they have decided not to field teams in all age groups. The only trials that have been advertised are for the Senior teams.

Trials at the other clubs either have started or will be over the the next two weeks and girls in the northern suburbs now have a number of clubs to trial at. Now that Metro have moved in the area and trying to establish a junior base. This has hurt the other three clubs that have been in the northern suburbs for some time successfully developing these girls.

[PHSC]

Was asked a question I found interesting. don't have answer for hoping someone can confirm or deny the question I got asked.

can someone confirm parahills knights junior teams had trials by invitatation emails only this year, STIC and State players with a hand full of EDJSA high level players only invited with no notice to the general public.

I was asked when there trials where and made a call to find out they were complete. Parent would like answer as her daughter did not make STIC so wasnt contacted, but was looking at playing at the knights this year.

Hi Left Wing Back,

Trials were advertised on the FFSA website on 14th September for U17, U15, U13. Also advertised through Northern Suburbs schools - requesting to place in school Newsletters. Over 25 schools were contacted.

Also, all 2012 Girls playing at the club were given trial dates by email and told at club training.

[juniorsupporter]

Thanks PHSC. Like I said, that rumour didn't make sense to me and I didn't give it much credibility. Good luck to all of the northern teams for a big turnout.

LWB, your friend should contact the northern clubs- there's bound to be room somewhere. Clubs should at least take their info. Sometimes there'll be enough interest between now and February for another team in a particular age group. Clubs shouldn't be closing the doors this early.

[timcahill97]

Para Hills Knights Junior Girls trials were absolutely not invitation only. They were open to anyone who was in in the selected age groups. I know this for a fact because I had seen it advertised in my child's school newsletter.

[Left Wing Back]

Cheers found the FFSA info on the 14th of september. Have told her to contact the club directly to find out when they are training.

Was called by another parent after they read this forum and yes they recieved an email and had not seen the advertisment or school newsletters or a ny other advertisment. I asked how there details had been got and they said it was there STIC coach that had emailed them about his trials. I thought this was not allowed. I am aquiring a copy of this email to post here.

[Possessionfootball]

I would be looking at his side this year to see how many STIC players have transferred to the Club !

Would be a good indication this was happening and I am interested in this email as I have heard in the past this has been happening with a particular coach

Also if this is true it will be interesting wether this gets swept under the carpet, ignored or dealt with by the FFSA

Hope it isn't happening because coaches in the future will be reluctant to send any players to STIC trials
Which is bad for football as a whole!

[Left Wing Back]

Parent would not forward me email as he believes it would affect her daughters experience with the coach in question. Such a shame some coaches take advantage of the STIC system to contact players after the fact.

Another year I have at least 6 of my players at STIC and they get approached by there coach . Why do I bother to send them there is it for there development or the coach's team for next year :? .

Probably the most disapointing thing is FFSA has had the same coach for two years with the same age group. That is an issue in itself when you are looking for new talent. :?

[connectfour]

There is always two sides to a "story", perhaps asking why kids leave when they are happy?

As a parent ive found these two options are the reasons why my kids have been happy or unhappy.

1 Poor coaching generates poor outcome = kids leave and look for better coaching.
2 Good coaching attracts good players = kids attracted to better development

Food for thought

[Left Wing Back]

There is always two sides to a "story", perhaps asking why kids leave when they are happy?

As a parent ive found these two options are the reasons why my kids have been happy or unhappy.

1 Poor coaching generates poor outcome = kids leave and look for better coaching.
2 Good coaching attracts good players = kids attracted to better development

Food for thought

Also being told that to get further in there soccer career they must go to that club and there current club has no future is an easy way to influence girls and especially parents with stars in there eyes.

As far as I am concerned there is a lot of coaches doing the 1-4-3-3 system longer than some coaches who claim they are the only one doing that system. To go further in your career you get nominated for STIC and the process starts there. If a coach is preparing girls for STIC at the costs of there results then they are looking at the future of the girl who wishes to progress. Technical ability is key to progress.

Lastly when a coach states and I quote " I do not coach beginners, why waste my time". You then watch him leave your club as he is not the future of the developing game of womens soccer you realise that all they want to do is coach state teams or above and will not go into the grass roots level and build the womens game, No that must be just for coaches like me who develop all girls regardless of talent and experience and work hard getting them to STIC. At STIC I expect them to recieve a higher quality of coaching I recieve and maybe be Identified for state team. Then with this experience be a good example and leader for developing players.

[Possessionfootball]

I was at a stic championship two years ago and witnessed the coaches friend approach the parents of a girl playing in his team - he said that their girl should play for the coach as he was going to be the next state coach for under 13s

As for 1-4-3-3 ,why do we persist with boring football , do we want our children to think for themselves,or do we want them to get bored ,teaching them skills and to think outside the box is more important.

Personally I would get more satisfaction on teaching girls who have not played before into top rate players

These coaches who just pick the best and say to other kids ,"you are not good enough " shouldn't be coaching

[timcahill97]

I am not familiar with any coaches who say that and to my knowledge and understanding, the 1-4-3-3 formation helps players think for themselves, if conducted properly.