Clubs with U17 teams for Season 2013

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Re: Clubs with U17 teams for Season 2013

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johnydep wrote:Possible U17JPL for 2013?
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC
    2. ABE
    3. MetroStars
    4. Cumberland United
    5. Western Strikers
    6. Raiders
    7. Playford
    8. West Adelaide
    9. Sturt
    10. Seaford
    11. Birkalla
    12. Enfield City SC
    13. Salisbury United
    14. Fulham United
This creates a few questions, such as; what happens if there are no other club entries to this league? What happens if a few clubs enter a second U17 team?
Scenario's -
  • One U17 Junior Premier League (JPL) only, with 14 teams. No U17 Junior State League (JSL)
  • Two small U17 leagues - JPL and JSL
  • One U17 JPL league, with extra U17 teams added to the U16 leagues.
Para Hills will have a side definitely.
I thought Campbelltown were having a 17s side as well?
Cant see how there would be a JSL League, think only 2 clubs from your list qualify.
If they get 16 teams just have 2 JPL Divisions.
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Re: Clubs with U17 teams for Season 2013

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Stepover wrote:
Para Hills will have a side definitely.
I thought Campbelltown were having a 17s side as well?
Cant see how there would be a JSL League, think only 2 clubs from your list qualify.
If they get 16 teams just have 2 JPL Divisions.
I was told that Campbelltown wont be having an U17 team, due to poor turn out for the age group. The info could be incorrect, but have yet to hear differently from the club.

PS. I beleive that there are 3 clubs that will be entering 2x U17 teams.
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Added Para Hills -
johnydep wrote:Possible U17JPL for 2013?
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC
    2. ABE
    3. MetroStars
    4. Cumberland United
    5. Western Strikers
    6. Raiders
    7. Playford
    8. West Adelaide
    9. Sturt
    10. Seaford
    11. Birkalla
    12. Enfield City SC
    13. Salisbury United
    14. Fulham United
    15. Para Hills
This creates a few questions, such as; what happens if there are no other club entries to this league? What happens if a few clubs enter a second U17 team?
Scenario's -
  • One U17 Junior Premier League (JPL) only, with 14 teams. No U17 Junior State League (JSL)
  • Two small U17 leagues - JPL and JSL
  • One U17 JPL league, with extra U17 teams added to the U16 leagues.
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Re: Clubs with U17 teams for Season 2013

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At the end of triails for 2013 season Comets selected an U17 team
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Added Comets -
johnydep wrote:Possible U17JPL for 2013?
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC
    2. ABE
    3. MetroStars
    4. Cumberland United
    5. Western Strikers
    6. Raiders
    7. Playford
    8. West Adelaide
    9. Sturt
    10. Seaford
    11. Birkalla
    12. Enfield City SC
    13. Salisbury United
    14. Fulham United
    15. Para Hills
    16. Comets
This creates a few questions, such as; what happens if there are no other club entries to this league? What happens if a few clubs enter a second U17 team?
Scenario's -
  • One U17 Junior Premier League (JPL) only, with 16 teams. No U17 Junior State League (JSL)
  • Two small U17 leagues - JPL and JSL
  • One U17 JPL league, with extra U17 teams added to the U16 leagues.
New scenario -
  • 2x U17 JPL leagues; an A and B division.
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Re: Clubs with U17 teams for Season 2013

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I believe Adelaide Cobras will have a U17s for 2013
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  • 1. Croydon Kings FC
    2. Adelaide Blue Eagles
    3. MetroStars SC
    4. Cumberland United
    5. Western Strikers SC
    6. Raiders SC
    7. Playford Patriots
    8. West Adelaide FC
    9. Sturt Lions FC
    10. Seaford United FC
    11. West Torrens Birkalla FC
    12. Enfield City SC
    13. Salisbury United
    14. Fulham United
    15. Para Hills Knights
    16. Adelaide Comets
    17. Adelaide Cobras
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i understand that Noarlunga will field an U/17 team next year
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Would any of these sides be fielding a second team? Two divisions of 10 wouldn't be a bad comp.
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grumbly wrote:Would any of these sides be fielding a second team? Two divisions of 10 wouldn't be a bad comp.
Croydon Kings will be. I've heard that another club will be as well, but can't remember which one.
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johnydep wrote:
johnydep wrote:
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1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855 http://www.noarlungaunited.com.au/ [/color]
[/list][/quote][/quote][/quote]

so div 1 could look like this : Comets, Kings, Para Hills, ABE, Metros,Birks, Patriots, Seaford,Westies, Noarlunga .
Div 2 : Cobras, Fulham, Salisbury,Enfield,Sturt, Raiders,Strikers,Cumby.
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I have also heard the Cove and White City will have an U17s .
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Faith No More wrote:1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855 http://www.noarlungaunited.com.au/ [/color]
[/list]
[/quote][/quote]

so div 1 could look like this : Comets, Kings, Para Hills, ABE, Metros,Birks, Patriots, Seaford,Westies, Noarlunga .
Div 2 : Cobras, Fulham, Salisbury,Enfield,Sturt, Raiders,Strikers,Cumby.[/quote]

Enfield would be in the 17A league having finished top of 16Bs this year and West Adelaide would join Salisbury in the 17 B league having finished bottom two sides in the 16As this season.
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  • 1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
    2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
    3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
    4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
    5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
    6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
    7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
    8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
    9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
    10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
    11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
    12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
    13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
    14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
    15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
    16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
    17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
    18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855

    19. Cove FC - awaiting confirmation.
    20. White City FC - awaiting confirmation.
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johnydep wrote:
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
    2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
    3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
    4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
    5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
    6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
    7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
    8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
    9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
    10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
    11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
    12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
    13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
    14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
    15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
    16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
    17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
    18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855[/color]
    19. Cove FC - awaiting confirmation.
    20. White City FC - awaiting confirmation.
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Faith No More wrote:
johnydep wrote:
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
    2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
    3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
    4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
    5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
    6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
    7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
    8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
    9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
    10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
    11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
    12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
    13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
    14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
    15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
    16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
    17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
    18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855[/color]
    19. Cove FC - awaiting confirmation.
    20. White City FC - awaiting confirmation.
Why have you deleted half the teams?
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Eastern united u17.
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Are you coaching the 17's Leo64
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Big Mac wrote:
Faith No More wrote:
johnydep wrote:
  • 1. Croydon Kings FC - Essex Crs, Croydon Pk 0418 562 437 / 0400 054 644
    2. Adelaide Blue Eagles - http://www.azzurri.net.au/
    3. MetroStars SC - http://www.metrostars.com.au/
    4. Cumberland United - Winona Avenue, Clarence Gdns 8293 4012
    5. Western Strikers SC - http://www.westernstrikers.com.au/
    6. Raiders SC - http://www.croatiaraiders.com.au/
    7. Playford Patriots - http://www.playfordpatriots.com.au/
    8. West Adelaide FC - Park Tce, Nth Adelaide 0414254090
    9. Sturt Lions FC - http://sturtlions.com.au/
    10. Seaford United FC - http://www.seafordunited.com
    11. West Torrens Birkalla FC - Saratoga Dve, Novar Gdns 8376 2865
    12. Enfield City SC - Anson St, Blair Athol 0421 115 880
    13. Salisbury United - Decimal Rd, Salisbury Nth 0405 148 119
    14. Fulham United - Valetta Rd, Fulham Gdns 0422 964 950
    15. Para Hills Knights - 0416765979
    16. Adelaide Comets - Ellis Park 8231-188
    17. Adelaide Cobras - 20 Urrbrae Tce PLYMPTON 041 786 1071
    18. Noarlunga United SC - States Rd Morphett Vale 8326 2855[/color]
    19. Cove FC - awaiting confirmation.
    20. White City FC - awaiting confirmation.
Why have you deleted half the teams?
Sorry bout that, tried to highlight the ones probably in Div 1 , but really who knows how they will determine the divs, given many 17s teams will not resemble their 2012 u16s teams at all !
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Faith No More...Yes, you're right...but really who knows how they will determine the divs...

however I thought that the makeup of the divs for the following year had NOTHING to do with the makeup of the individual teams the year before, but rather, whether a club fielded the previous age group the year before! e.g. if a club did not field an U16 team in 2012, then if that club fielded an U17 team in 2013...it would start in the lowest div. As was the case for some clubs this year and in previous years.
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Lets see what happens. Who knows untill Ffsa get it sorted.
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on-side wrote:Faith No More...Yes, you're right...but really who knows how they will determine the divs...

however I thought that the makeup of the divs for the following year had NOTHING to do with the makeup of the individual teams the year before, but rather, whether a club fielded the previous age group the year before! e.g. if a club did not field an U16 team in 2012, then if that club fielded an U17 team in 2013...it would start in the lowest div. As was the case for some clubs this year and in previous years.

this is still the process used by the FFSA to determine whether teams are in 17As or 17Bs - it is based on the final placing of their Under 16s team the previous season. For those clubs who did not have a 16's team, their 17s would be placed in the lowest division.

If there are 20 teams, then presumably there will only be 17As and 17Bs and no requirement for a 17s JSL league next season, which is ordinarily where clubs like Fulham would be playing.
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If U17s is more community than elite at many clubs and/or it's not possible to use this year's U17/U16 results as a guide, then why not just split the Divs along geographical lines and save kids & parents some long trips from one end of town to the other?
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Car in ya wrote:If U17s is more community than elite at many clubs and/or it's not possible to use this year's U17/U16 results as a guide, then why not just split the Divs along geographical lines and save kids & parents some long trips from one end of town to the other?
JPL A should be the strongest teams, so as to be the most competitive league for player development.

Lets not damage the league anymore than it already is; by the poor wording and management from our governing bodies. Hopefully clubs will receive better information early in Season 2013 to allow for proper preparation for Season 2014. Until then, clubs should offer all their players equal opportunity.

The Croydon Kings U17JPL will have pre-season training this month with the Senior structure, opportunities will be available for players.
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Any idea whether these clubs will be having an U17 team -
  • Toros?
  • Pirates
  • Adelaide Hills
  • Missed any?
Clubs with no U17 team -
  • Adelaide City
  • Modbury Jets
  • Campbelltown City
  • Olympic
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Car in ya wrote:If U17s is more community than elite at many clubs and/or it's not possible to use this year's U17/U16 results as a guide, then why not just split the Divs along geographical lines and save kids & parents some long trips from one end of town to the other?
Why would you suggest it is more "community" than elite???
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