Interchange for Ressies (or B teams)

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God is an Englishman wrote:Picture this game, it's 1-0 and there's 2 minutes to play, the team winning need to win the game to win the league and it's 2:48pm.

Now the B's have to be off the pitch at 2:50, as a coach I would make an "interchange" at EVERY stoppage.
bloodypassit wrote: 5 mins to go
1-0 up
I then can make sub after sub to waste time to drag it to the point were the ref has to blow full time for the first team to start .....
as I was saying .........
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bloodypassit wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Picture this game, it's 1-0 and there's 2 minutes to play, the team winning need to win the game to win the league and it's 2:48pm.

Now the B's have to be off the pitch at 2:50, as a coach I would make an "interchange" at EVERY stoppage.
bloodypassit wrote: 5 mins to go
1-0 up
I then can make sub after sub to waste time to drag it to the point were the ref has to blow full time for the first team to start .....
as I was saying .........
Easier for someone to go down with a fake injury methinks.
As I mentioned earlier, restrictions need to be in place....even without interchange, if a coach hasn't used his substitutes he could make substitutions to take up time....don't see much difference to how it currently stands.
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Re: Interchange for Ressies (or B teams)

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bloodypassit wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Picture this game, it's 1-0 and there's 2 minutes to play, the team winning need to win the game to win the league and it's 2:48pm.

Now the B's have to be off the pitch at 2:50, as a coach I would make an "interchange" at EVERY stoppage.
bloodypassit wrote: 5 mins to go
1-0 up
I then can make sub after sub to waste time to drag it to the point were the ref has to blow full time for the first team to start .....
as I was saying .........
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swannsong wrote:
bloodypassit wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Picture this game, it's 1-0 and there's 2 minutes to play, the team winning need to win the game to win the league and it's 2:48pm.

Now the B's have to be off the pitch at 2:50, as a coach I would make an "interchange" at EVERY stoppage.
bloodypassit wrote: 5 mins to go
1-0 up
I then can make sub after sub to waste time to drag it to the point were the ref has to blow full time for the first team to start .....
as I was saying .........
Easier for someone to go down with a fake injury methinks.
As I mentioned earlier, restrictions need to be in place....even without interchange, if a coach hasn't used his substitutes he could make substitutions to take up time....don't see much difference to how it currently stands.

Yes he can use his subs but under this scenario he could make unlimited interchange in the last few minutes.

Football is a game that has subs, I can understand Over 35's and friendlies but I don't even think C grade should have interchange.
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God is an Englishman wrote:but I don't even think C grade should have interchange.
In an ideal world possibly not GIAE but the fact is that C grade players are often the ones that the club is built on as they are youngsters that you want to keep in the club or older club stalwarts who have loyally followed and propped up the club - I would suggest that you really don't want to pi$$ these two groups off but not giving them a game - especially as they are the ones that actually have to pay to play and not have their rego subsidised or paid for.
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Every time I have played a team that has used interchange "effectively", it has f'd up the tempo and flow of the game. You always have a players around you changing, and it makes it tougher to read a game and work your way into it.

Not saying it doesn't have it's place, but that place is not at the top level.
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blackout wrote:Every time I have played a team that has used interchange "effectively", it has f'd up the tempo and flow of the game. You always have a players around you changing, and it makes it tougher to read a game and work your way into it.

Not saying it doesn't have it's place, but that place is not at the top level.

luckily Amateur B's is far from the top level then.
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With interchange, the referee has the right to not allow the change so if a coach used it as a tactic, the ref can prevent it.

Personal opinion, I would only support it in Div 3 and below or in C/O35's grade.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
blackout wrote:Every time I have played a team that has used interchange "effectively", it has f'd up the tempo and flow of the game. You always have a players around you changing, and it makes it tougher to read a game and work your way into it.

Not saying it doesn't have it's place, but that place is not at the top level.

luckily Amateur B's is far from the top level then.
All relative. Your B's may be, but ours are top $hit.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
blackout wrote:Every time I have played a team that has used interchange "effectively", it has f'd up the tempo and flow of the game. You always have a players around you changing, and it makes it tougher to read a game and work your way into it.

Not saying it doesn't have it's place, but that place is not at the top level.

luckily Amateur B's is far from the top level then.
All relative. Your B's may be, but ours are top $hit.

better than your A's, better than the super league, better than the a league???
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Some valid points about time wasting at the end of games have been mentioned.

What if the ressie teams were still limited to 14 player & interchange could only be done in the first half & during the half time break. So once the second half begun, the usual 3 player maximum substitute rule would apply.

So what would this achieve?

Ressies coaches could give more of their players a fairer go, instead of, for example, just the last 20 minutes. A player coming off on interchange before the start of the second half could go back on in the second half if required. This could keep more players interested & involved in the club.
Injuries could be better covered.
The ressies games would possibly be played at a higher pace which would be a good for those players striving to get into the "A" team.
"A" team coaches could have more scope to give their "A" team subs a short run in the ressies, instead of not having a run at all if he decides not to use a sub in the "A" game.
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Cant believe this topic is still going!!!

Stupidest idea ever!

If it aint broke dont fix it...

Ressies players should be striving to play first team and pushing first team players hence should play under the very same conditions.

Interchange is for friendlies and kick around games not for reserve grade football.
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Chico wrote: If it aint broke dont fix it...
Who determines if it is broke or not !
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swannsong wrote:
Chico wrote: If it aint broke dont fix it...
Who determines if it is broke or not !
while im not agreeing with swanny on the interchange ... i dislike the saying if it aint broke dont fix it ..... why not look for ways to improve things

Because Elizabeth Downs won the double this year do they not change things or do they find ways to improve even more
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bloodypassit wrote:
swannsong wrote:
Chico wrote: If it aint broke dont fix it...
Who determines if it is broke or not !
while im not agreeing with swanny on the interchange ... i dislike the saying if it aint broke dont fix it ..... why not look for ways to improve things

Because Elizabeth Downs won the double this year do they not change things or do they find ways to improve even more
Really, they won the Double ???
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bloodypassit wrote:Because Elizabeth Downs won the double this year do they not change things or do they find ways to improve even more
until they win the treble, they're nothing!!
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God is an Englishman wrote:
blackout wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
luckily Amateur B's is far from the top level then.
All relative. Your B's may be, but ours are top $hit.

better than your A's, better than the super league, better than the a league???
I don't know how to reply to that. Give me something to work with here.
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blackout wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:better than your A's, better than the super league, better than the a league???
I don't know how to reply to that. Give me something to work with here.
well there's 3 questions, you could start by answering them!!
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its adelaide,,,,,,adelaidians dont like change ,,,,they rather have a amateur player site on the bench for 85 minutes on the weekend
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colon clenser wrote:its adelaide,,,,,,adelaidians dont like change ,,,,they rather have a amateur player site on the bench for 85 minutes on the weekend
If he's going to sit on the bench for 85 minutes then why isn't he playing C's?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
blackout wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:better than your A's, better than the super league, better than the a league???
I don't know how to reply to that. Give me something to work with here.
well there's 3 questions, you could start by answering them!!
Because they are all stupid.
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blackout wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:well there's 3 questions, you could start by answering them!!
Because they are all stupid.

that answer makes no sense, you can't start a sentance with 'because' where there's no question been answered. Can you please explain yourself better and while you're at it, answer the questions.
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