RVP

[BTAC]

Anyone would have taken Hyypia at any stage. He was brilliant.

[Nice One Cyril]

I am guessing you are under 25 and have never been to Salford neither.

Why would anyone willingly go to Salford in the first place? Wet, miserable and full of fucking Lancastrians.

[Litmanen]

Anyone would have taken Hyypia at any stage. He was brilliant.

True, I guess that's what illustrates the difference between united and teams like pool and arsenal.

Carragher and Gerrard are the only ones left from the last time they won something big. Arsenal had the same situation a while back too. United still have a team full of winners because those experienced guys ( like Hyypia was for pool), stayed in the side.

Lamps/drogba/JT/cech, is probably the best Chelsea example, winning through their peak and still being an influence after.

[BTAC]

I love Hyypia. Words can't describe how much.

[maryusdemetry]

I love Hyypia. Words can't describe how much.

Finland´s best exportation product

[Old Redback]

I am guessing you are under 25 and have never been to Salford neither.

Why would anyone willingly go to Salford in the first place? Wet, miserable and full of bottle of shiraz Lancastrians.

Well maybe if they were a Manchester United fan they might think about going to the ground?

[Jimbob]

Djimi Traore won a Champions League medal - would you have him in your team Jimbob?

No because we have a team full of players who have trophies and medals coming out of their ears. If I supported Arsenal however, I would love to have a player with his trophy winning experience in my squad. His winning mentality would be invaluable to the current Arsenal team.

You make a good point, but obviously traore is probably a bad example, much like bosingwa and several other squad players.

Would people have wanted Hyypia in there squad the year after? I'd say so.

It comes down to what the player can bring, if you win a final, generally you have dealt with a pressure situation well. So if i want to make sure my team doesn't lose, wouldn't it be great to bring Ricardo Carvalho on just to steady the ship? Giggs and Scholes are way past their best, but you know they can cope with pressure alot better than a younger player would, that's the importance of experience, and players that have won trophies often are the better examples of this because A) generally they were good enough to actually play in an awesome team, so this means they are normally quite talented, and B) the highest pressure you can have is in a final, and reaping the reward after lets you know you can do it, self belief is so important as well.

TLDR: you make a good point, but people will always use some random crappy squad player to prove you wrong, because that's the small exception to the rule.

I should really have used blue text when talking about Traore.

[Derek]

Back on topic.......RVP injured during Holland game, surprise surprise.

[Jimbob]

Back on topic.......RVP injured during Holland game, surprise surprise.

Getting a bit giddy there? Not that serious apparently, lots of players picking up knocks playing for their countries in the last week. Kagawa is a concern as well!!

Club managers must hate these international weeks

[Derek]

Just find it incredible the amount of times that bloke has been injured playing for his country.

[Jimbob]

Just find it incredible the amount of times that bloke has been injured playing for his country.

You'll be happy you don't have to worry about that anymore then?

[bapa]

Just find it incredible the amount of times that bloke has been injured playing for his country.

maybe he couldnt be asssed goin back to his club to carry the whole team, so if he feinted an injury, he would get some time-off.....

[Derek]

Yeah.....Maybe

[haywood djablowme]

maybe he couldnt be asssed goin back to his club to carry the whole team, so if he feinted an injury, he would get some time-off.....

He must have that same mind set now then!

Told ya it wouldnt take long for him to fall over injured... All good things must come to an end

[BTAC]

What a cunt, I just brought him into my fantasy team.

[The one and only]

dudes all i know is question nani i understand but valencia and scholes give me a break valencia is class and scholes even at his age controls midfield's and is probably still one of the best passers going around

[Derek]

Scholes is pants.

[Litmanen]

Scholes is pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDI7KxMpbGw

[Derek]

When was that filmed? Nowhere near as good as he was, gives the ball away constantly and is slow. Yeah can hold the ball up well but certainly doesnt dictate play how he once did. Thanks for the video though.....

[Litmanen]

When was that filmed? Nowhere near as good as he was, gives the ball away constantly and is slow. Yeah can hold the ball up well but certainly doesnt dictate play how he once did. Thanks for the video though.....

Before the United Barca final i reckon?

There's a reason he came back out of retirement, You may not notice it, but he's the glue when he comes on, there's a reason why he's Xavi's idol.

I'll try and find some of his game stats for this season. The guy never loses the ball.

[Derek]

Well both games i have seen him in this season he was ok.......That is all.

[bapa]

Scholes is pants.

was he playing last year when u got trounced 8-2???

[Derek]

He has been one of the best midfielders the premier league has seen, no doubt. But face it he is on the decline and nowhere near the player he was....He will have no real impact anymore.

[bapa]

He has been one of the best midfielders the premier league has seen, no doubt. But face it he is on the decline and nowhere near the player he was....He will have no real impact anymore.

Scholes is pants.

was he playing last year when u got trounced 8-2???

[The one and only]

When was that filmed? Nowhere near as good as he was, gives the ball away constantly and is slow. Yeah can hold the ball up well but certainly doesnt dictate play how he once did. Thanks for the video though.....

that comment just proves you have not watched him at all he never looses the ball

[Jimbob]

He has been one of the best midfielders the premier league has seen, no doubt. But face it he is on the decline and nowhere near the player he was....He will have no real impact anymore.

Still dictated the play in almost every game he played in last year. The match at Anfield sticks out for me as one of his best. He hasn't featured much this year but changed the game when he came on against Southampton. Will still be one of the best midfielders in the country for 25-30 games this season.

Not really sure why we're having this debate to be honest? A bigger issue for United is finding someone to replace him like for like but is that even possible unless we buy Xavi or Iniesta?

[Litmanen]

He has been one of the best midfielders the premier league has seen, no doubt. But face it he is on the decline and nowhere near the player he was....He will have no real impact anymore.

Still dictated the play in almost every game he played in last year. The match at Anfield sticks out for me as one of his best. He hasn't featured much this year but changed the game when he came on against Southampton. Will still be one of the best midfielders in the country for 25-30 games this season.

Not really sure why we're having this debate to be honest? A bigger issue for United is finding someone to replace him like for like but is that even possible unless we buy Xavi or Iniesta?

Joe Allen and Jack Wilshere seem to be the best young british replacements.. Mceachran isn't good enough and i dont watch enough of Cleverly to comment, he seems a bit more industrious.

[Jimbob]

He has been one of the best midfielders the premier league has seen, no doubt. But face it he is on the decline and nowhere near the player he was....He will have no real impact anymore.

Still dictated the play in almost every game he played in last year. The match at Anfield sticks out for me as one of his best. He hasn't featured much this year but changed the game when he came on against Southampton. Will still be one of the best midfielders in the country for 25-30 games this season.

Not really sure why we're having this debate to be honest? A bigger issue for United is finding someone to replace him like for like but is that even possible unless we buy Xavi or Iniesta?

Joe Allen and Jack Wilshere seem to be the best young british replacements.. Mceachran isn't good enough and i dont watch enough of Cleverly to comment, he seems a bit more industrious.

Can't really tell with Cleverly yet, the lad needs a run of games to see how good he is and exactly what type of midfielder he's gonna be. Hopefully he'll play all season then we'll see if he's good enough.

[BTAC]

Keep going Ian Wrights, this is hilarious.

[Derek]

Once again a brilliant contribution from Bow Ties. I thought this was a forum where people have opinions? Just out of curiosity, where do you play? if you play at all......