Appointed coaches?

[Jack Mehorf]

Just watching Swansea at the moment, don't see anyone volleying it back to their teammates from 1m .....

Haha.....me too mate just put about 40 passes together, lot more to it than just vollies mate

[Željko Jurin]

Just watching Swansea at the moment, don't see anyone volleying it back to their teammates from 1m .....

Haha.....me too mate just put about 40 passes together, lot more to it than just vollies mate

But you said before you did not agree with me (ie) i said that standing in lines, stationary and volleying back to a teammate was a waste of time

[Željko Jurin]

The other one I love seeing (not) is 15 kids standing in line, ball each, and one at a time pass to the coach, he lays it off, and then get to shoot (every 5 mins mind you) ..... even seen it before games for a warm up, from u9s through to u17s ....

[Jack Mehorf]

Just watching Swansea at the moment, don't see anyone volleying it back to their teammates from 1m .....

Haha.....me too mate just put about 40 passes together, lot more to it than just vollies mate

But you said before you did not agree with me (ie) i said that standing in lines, stationary and volleying back to a teammate was a waste of time

I think you need a bit of it in moderation....heading,volleying,chest,thigh etc. most training sessions should be game/passing orientated, focusing on a good first touch, crisp passing using both feet, good movement off the ball and good decision making on the ball. Those drills should always be done on the move never stationary and plenty of balls involved

[Jack Mehorf]

The other one I love seeing (not) is 15 kids standing in line, ball each, and one at a time pass to the coach, he lays it off, and then get to shoot (every 5 mins mind you) ..... even seen it before games for a warm up, from u9s through to u17s ....

That would never happen at Campbelltown......they've weeded out any coaches that have no idea like that.........Jez.....Swansea look awesome.......lovely to watch

[Dutch_Master]

I agree with Fubar.
You would want to know the coach and his background before you signed.
Surely these clubs are not expecting parents to shell out $700+ and have no idea of the level of coaching thier kids will receive for a year.
Come on ! tell us when the trial dates are and who the coaches are !

As Major Tom has said in a previous post, contact the club.

[barchetta]

I notice that this is about the time of year when clubs are posting trial dates however, there seems to be no mention of coaches who are appointed for the respective teams and age groups.

Is this common practice? I am unfamiliar with this process.

I suppose there are a few reasons why no mention of coaches have been made; a decision has not been made as to the successful applicant, not enough applicants have been recieved, as yet, to inform parents (ie; not enough interest from prospective coaches), the communication of successful applicants is slow, the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay).

In any case the process of deciding who is to be the coach should start as early as possible so all can plan for the next season.

[johnydep]

I notice that this is about the time of year when clubs are posting trial dates however, there seems to be no mention of coaches who are appointed for the respective teams and age groups.

Is this common practice? I am unfamiliar with this process.

I suppose there are a few reasons why no mention of coaches have been made; a decision has not been made as to the successful applicant, not enough applicants have been recieved, as yet, to inform parents (ie; not enough interest from prospective coaches), the communication of successful applicants is slow, the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay).

In any case the process of deciding who is to be the coach should start as early as possible so all can plan for the next season.

How about letting the current season finish.

[barchetta]

I notice that this is about the time of year when clubs are posting trial dates however, there seems to be no mention of coaches who are appointed for the respective teams and age groups.

Is this common practice? I am unfamiliar with this process.

I suppose there are a few reasons why no mention of coaches have been made; a decision has not been made as to the successful applicant, not enough applicants have been recieved, as yet, to inform parents (ie; not enough interest from prospective coaches), the communication of successful applicants is slow, the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay).

In any case the process of deciding who is to be the coach should start as early as possible so all can plan for the next season.

How about letting the current season finish.

Yeah true. Forgot about that one. I know there are some coaches that have already been told they've got it and some have posted names on the net. I guess if you haven't got the word that you are the coach the writings on the wall that you probably aint.

[Željko Jurin]

...... the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay) .

If this is true this is absurd .... a form of deceit rearly ...

"let's keep quiet, not tell parents who the coach is (if we actually have one), grab their deposit, and then put anyone in that puts their hand up, doesn't matter if they dont know what they're doing"

[Major Tom]

...... the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay) .

If this is true this is absurd .... a form of deceit rearly ...

"let's keep quiet, not tell parents who the coach is (if we actually have one), grab their deposit, and then put anyone in that puts their hand up, doesn't matter if they dont know what they're doing"

If.

[barchetta]

...... the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay) .

If this is true this is absurd .... a form of deceit rearly ...cuc

"let's keep quiet, not tell parents who the coach is (if we actually have one), grab their deposit, and then put anyone in that puts their hand up, doesn't matter if they dont know what they're doing"

Yeah. Funny that. It could be that the club may expect there to be turbulence but they are happy to deal with it as it happens. It might seem like deceit but may'be not. I know of some parents that have moved their child because of coaching appointments (who doesn't know someone?). It takes courage to move, risking the child not being accepted into a new club or the child not being happy with the move. There is one I know that moved to Raiders that has done well. And by the way a fine boy with terrific skill. Parents dedicated to supporting the boy.

[Major Tom]

...... the clubs do not want parents to know who the coach will be in case the player and/or the parents choose to go elsewhere for some reason (There's plenty of people out there that say they will or won't stay at a club based on who the coach is to be. Probably fair enough, but my experience has been that if their child gets picked at trials they find some reason to stay) .

If this is true this is absurd .... a form of deceit rearly ...cuc

"let's keep quiet, not tell parents who the coach is (if we actually have one), grab their deposit, and then put anyone in that puts their hand up, doesn't matter if they dont know what they're doing"

Yeah. Funny that. It could be that the club may expect there to be turbulence but they are happy to deal with it as it happens. It might seem like deceit but may'be not.........

Talk about clutching at straws - you guys really are imagining things.

[Reds24]

In A perfect world.

FFSA-Charges a standard fee, for the comp, whether we agree or disagree.

Clubs, usually charge on top to cover;

a. What ever clobber they want the club to have, kits, 1 or 2, team bags, track suites etc.
b. Insurances.
C. Some clubs use to pay coaches incidentals, ie. petrol money etc.
d. actually pay junior coaches.

In respect to junior coaching appointments, it would be great if all clubs appoint before trials, but obviously the logistics of this happening are to onerous for clubs to finalise before trialing for teams.i.e. trial after you appoint coaches there may not be too many players left to trial, already signed up with another clubs.

If the concern is about the coaches of a club or a team, be assured that all coaches would need to have certification to be able to appointed as a coach.

My only advice is do not equate larger fees to better coaching for any particular club or team, it is hit or miss.

I would suggest go to a club and a team you are compfotable, and then seek additional coaching at an academy.

Here is where you can research the coaching program, the coach and get references from other parents and junior players who have already expeirenced the program.

You can not rely on any club to give you the level of tecnhical coaching you might be seeking for your child.

To ensure and succeede you will need to look beyond a club and team. It all depend how serious you are in wanting to seek the best coaching.....

[Željko Jurin]

We are all amateurs and volunteers, parents need to deal with it ...

[Reds24]

Spot Željko Jurin Jnr

you have missed my point.

The point is Higher fees for registration at a club does not equate to better club/team or coaching.

Seeking individual coaching, may give you the opportunity to select appropriate coaching for you son/daughter, given that coaches for teams may or may not be appointed at the time of trials.

[Željko Jurin]

Spot on, or missed the point ?

[Fitz]

I'm not sure about other teams or clubs, but by the time we finish training in 3 weeks, the team I am involved with would have done 71 training sessions, then plus kits, tracksuit, grounds maintenance etc ....

Parents need to see where they are getting value for money

You could get a cheap deal and only pay $400 or $500, but only get 40 sessions and only 1 kit ...... and then have to pay extra to get a compulsary polo shirt and tracksuit thats not included in the fee

how has the visit from Zagreb (forgive me if the wrong team) coaches visit had on the training sessions at Raiders youth ZJ? I gather it would have been quite an interesting watch.

Its nice to see clubs taking a serious view to trials, a large number of trial sessions will show with the quality chosen at the end. I personally am interested in sitting down and interviewing the players (and possibly, parents) if/when i coach at youth level. Mentality, attitude and humble personal character would be desirable in youth players.

[Faith No More]

I'm not sure about other teams or clubs, but by the time we finish training in 3 weeks, the team I am involved with would have done 71 training sessions, then plus kits, tracksuit, grounds maintenance etc ....

Parents need to see where they are getting value for money

You could get a cheap deal and only pay $400 or $500, but only get 40 sessions and only 1 kit ...... and then have to pay extra to get a compulsary polo shirt and tracksuit thats not included in the fee

how has the visit from Zagreb (forgive me if the wrong team) coaches visit had on the training sessions at Raiders youth ZJ? I gather it would have been quite an interesting watch.

Its nice to see clubs taking a serious view to trials, a large number of trial sessions will show with the quality chosen at the end. I personally am interested in sitting down and interviewing the players (and possibly, parents) if/when i coach at youth level. Mentality, attitude and humble personal character would be desirable in youth players.

Good luck with that. Next there will be a written entrance exam & you'll need a resume with referees to play U13s !

[FUBAR]

Maybe parents need to interview fitz!!

[Fitz]

Maybe parents need to interview fitz!!

sorry mate, not biting on that one. next time maybe ;)

[FUBAR]

whats there to bite on? just making the point that i think its crazy to have an interview process for kids football! ill be polite and leave it at that!!

[Fitz]

whats there to bite on? just making the point that i think its crazy to have an interview process for kids football! ill be polite and leave it at that!!

okay, since its a legitimate question: crazy? or thorough? if you had two kids equally talented, but you know the personality of the players is remarkably different, with one a hard worker, humble yet confident, or one who was arrogant, disrespectful to teammates and others, who would you choose???? i know i would try and pick the best of the bunch, and that includes all factors.

[FUBAR]

whats there to bite on? just making the point that i think its crazy to have an interview process for kids football! ill be polite and leave it at that!!

okay, since its a legitimate question: crazy? or thorough? if you had two kids equally talented, but you know the personality of the players is remarkably different, with one a hard worker, humble yet confident, or one who was arrogant, disrespectful to teammates and others, who would you choose???? i know i would try and pick the best of the bunch, and that includes all factors.

and you need an interview to do that.? you sound like a smart bloke so no need for the interviews, those characteristics should come/be spotted in trails.