Hahndorf vs Redblue Eagles result?

[Gigi10]

When will the result be finslised? Anyone know?

[Dash Riprock]

when they stop abusing at the ref?

['Arden Den Far Kuup]

The word on the street is that hahndorf have been awarded the match 2-0. SAASL want to stamp out these incidents happening over and over again and from whats been whispered on the ref's report RBE were not painted in good light. Again this is heresay, dont shoot the messenger! I'm hoping someone can shed some more light to this.

[Chips]

wow that is huge result if true, at both ends of the ladder.

[Steve#4]

If true, that would definitely send a message to the whole league.

Refs may get treated like human beings instead of something smelly you have stepped in.

[5cougarsthanx]

2-0 with 20 to go, the result should stand.. Surprised if this is not the case. The players on both sides caught up in the trouble should be penalised, harshly if need be. The whole team should not be punished IMO.

[5cougarsthanx]

If this is the case that the result is reversed, and taking in consideration the rumour by PPG that only one team is to be relegated this year, there are some big games coming up for all teams... Going to be a photo finish on both ends of the ladder. Gleeson v Hahndorf massive game next week!!

[Cantona.7]

I was the offending player that was sent off. Certainly wasn't one of my better moments - and deserve to cop the 2 games for the red.
But at the end of the day, the incident in which the game was called off was mind boggling. What's even more confusing is that the league now has the power to now reverse results??
Will be interesting to see what happens with it. Certainly not fair to punish the whole team for one players mistake.

[Juventino]

Also consider the red card incident happened about ten minutes before the game abandoning issue, it would be harsh to directly link one to the other.

[Chips]

2-0 with 20 to go, the result should stand.. Surprised if this is not the case. The players on both sides caught up in the trouble should be penalised, harshly if need be. The whole team should not be punished IMO.

Isnt this what SAASL did with a couple teams that were kicked out of the league the last couple years? went hard on the team and not so much the players.

[Cantona.7]

2-0 with 20 to go, the result should stand.. Surprised if this is not the case. The players on both sides caught up in the trouble should be penalised, harshly if need be. The whole team should not be punished IMO.

Isnt this what SAASL did with a couple teams that were kicked out of the league the last couple years? went hard on the team and not so much the players.

Are you saying that ARBE are the same as those clubs Chips?

[Gigi10]

If the result is reversed its plain to see that the system is F"@KED!! The incident that got the game called off came after a hahndorf player kicked the redblue keeper, there was a bit of a tussle then the hahndorf players resorted to racial abuse. Hmmm a reversal sounds heaps fair...

[5cougarsthanx]

There is not even the slightest resemblance between RBE and those other teams. I don't think Chips meant it that way. Sounds like the incident that occurred after the send off triggered the postponement... I'll ask you though Childsy, did you get involved in the altercation during or after you were sent off?? Say anything to the ref?? Any thing?? Wasn't there mate, just asking the question though??

[God is an Englishman]

2-0 with 20 to go, the result should stand.. Surprised if this is not the case. The players on both sides caught up in the trouble should be penalised, harshly if need be. The whole team should not be punished IMO.

So, you're 2-0 with 20 to go, down to 10 men. Get the game abandoned and keep the win.

Not saying this is what happened, just saying it's not as simple as saying a blanket "result should stand".

As I said before, if refs report is damning on rbe then it will be reversed. If not, then the result at 70 minutes stands.

[God is an Englishman]

Also consider the red card incident happened about ten minutes before the game abandoning issue, it would be harsh to directly link one to the other.

so, was it not the same person who was sent off who was then involved in the abandonment? I thought that's what I read.

[God is an Englishman]

interesting that the Hahndorf report seems to lay blame at both sides and states that they feel the result will stand.

Also shows if I did read what I did in my post above, that I read it wrong. Red card and abandonment completely seperate incidents.

[Gigi10]

2 seperate issues. Red card was 10 mins if not more b4 the game got called off. The issue that got the game called off was clearly because of the hahndorf player who kicked the keeper behind play and then continued with physical and verbal abuse, some of which was racial

[magpie8]

the 2nd incident started when the RBE keeper elbowed hahndorfs striker in the jaw, which he then retaliated. the game should've continued

[clemence]

I was the offending player that was sent off. Certainly wasn't one of my better moments - and deserve to cop the 2 games for the red.
But at the end of the day, the incident in which the game was called off was mind boggling. What's even more confusing is that the league now has the power to now reverse results??
Will be interesting to see what happens with it. Certainly not fair to punish the whole team for one players mistake.

They arent punishing the team they are punishing the club and you are a representative of that club when you take the field, maybe some of your team mates or fellow club members should have moved you away from the situation.
People seem to forget that they represent a club on a saturday afternoon, wether that just be as a spectator, official or player, you all have to represent YOUR club in the best light. Clubs have been told they are responsible for the behaviour of all officials, spectators and players.
So in my opinion your club should be punished and if you where playing for my club i would push for an extra club suspension

[Chips]

2-0 with 20 to go, the result should stand.. Surprised if this is not the case. The players on both sides caught up in the trouble should be penalised, harshly if need be. The whole team should not be punished IMO.

Isnt this what SAASL did with a couple teams that were kicked out of the league the last couple years? went hard on the team and not so much the players.

Are you saying that ARBE are the same as those clubs Chips?

Relax c7. All im saying is SAASL side with the ref in most incidents i know off. If the ref felt threatened and thought he was in danger you dont know how they will react. And i was just giving an example of how and what they have done in the past.

[Cantona.7]

I was the offending player that was sent off. Certainly wasn't one of my better moments - and deserve to cop the 2 games for the red.
But at the end of the day, the incident in which the game was called off was mind boggling. What's even more confusing is that the league now has the power to now reverse results??
Will be interesting to see what happens with it. Certainly not fair to punish the whole team for one players mistake.

They arent punishing the team they are punishing the club and you are a representative of that club when you take the field, maybe some of your team mates or fellow club members should have moved you away from the situation.
People seem to forget that they represent a club on a saturday afternoon, wether that just be as a spectator, official or player, you all have to represent YOUR club in the best light. Clubs have been told they are responsible for the behaviour of all officials, spectators and players.
So in my opinion your club should be punished and if you where playing for my club i would push for an extra club suspension

I agree. But to be perfectly honest, it lasted about 8 seconds. I've seen worse in at LEAST 2 games from opposition teams. I've put my hand up and admitted I deserved red, and I'll cop the suspension. The coaching staff have enforced a ban for the remainder of the season
The point is, as pointed out by the Hahndorf report is that the incident was 10 minutes before the game was called off. If we trawled through the league records for all divisions there would be at least 50 red cards for dissent towards referees. How many games called off.
The game should never have been called off, end of.

[blackandwhite]

Threats by RBE to beat the ref up after the game is what caused the stoppage. These occured 10 mins earlier but without those threats the push and shove would not have resulted in the cancellation. The push and shove was minor but the ref was on edge from those threats.

[Gigi10]

Im sorry but there were no threats of any kind made to the ref

[Steve#4]

Someones telling porkies :?

[God is an Englishman]

Someones telling porkies :?

that was always going to happen, he said/she said. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

[Cantona.7]

Threats by RBE to beat the ref up after the game is what caused the stoppage. These occured 10 mins earlier but without those threats the push and shove would not have resulted in the cancellation. The push and shove was minor but the ref was on edge from those threats.

Really?
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story mate.

[5cougarsthanx]

It's pretty easy then. It depends on the ref report. There are two sides to every story as clearly demonstrated here. If the ref was threatened and he reports it, Hahndorf wins. If not, Rbe gets the points.

[Cantona.7]

It's pretty easy then. It depends on the ref report. There are two sides to every story as clearly demonstrated here. If the ref was threatened and he reports it, Hahndorf wins. If not, Rbe gets the points.

This is what would've happened.....
Red Card - (def deserved)....on a side note - a 6 game suspension that's been served is disgusting.
10 minutes later - altercation between our goalkeeper and Hahndorf striker. Continues for about 2-3 minutes, ref blows full time. Walking off, prob realises how poor that decision is (from the sheer look of confusion on EVERYONE at the ground's face).
Makes a bit more of a meal about the red card.
At no stage did I ever say I was going to bash him, threaten him or any of the like.
In my opinion I think him making more of a meal about the red card and what was actually said, gives him a bit more credibility.
Last ill say on the matter, will wait and see what happens on Monday night....but whisper is they will be reversing the results - which is comical. Hahndorf manage to get 3 points for having 1 shot on goal.

[God is an Englishman]

This is what would've happened.....
Red Card - (def deserved)....on a side note - a 6 game suspension that's been served is disgusting.
goal.

Are you saying you got 6 games for your red card? Sounds VERY harsh unless you did actually threaten to bash him, I'm siding that you didn't. You've been around too long to go down that path.

Wasn't this your last game of the season anyway, or was that a decision made after the game?

[Cantona.7]

This is what would've happened.....
Red Card - (def deserved)....on a side note - a 6 game suspension that's been served is disgusting.
goal.

Are you saying you got 6 games for your red card? Sounds VERY harsh unless you did actually threaten to bash him, I'm siding that you didn't. You've been around too long to go down that path.

Wasn't this your last game of the season anyway, or was that a decision made after the game?

My exact words were "No wonder you f'n idiots get threatened by people"
It was certainly the wrong thing to say, as soon as the red card was dished i was off. I deserve a red card, I deserve 2 matches.
As I said - the ref has realised his error - and is going down the path of making my actions out to be worse than they were to save some face for the most RIDICULOUS decision in calling the game off.
I've never had a red card in the amatuer league (maybe one), and all of a sudden im going round threatening to bash referees. What I said was wrong, no mistake, but 6 games is laughable.
GIAE - after the game decided that playing was enough for me, because i let my frustrations allow me to act in an inappropriate manner (the red card for dissent). And thought it was time to finish up - then act like a peanut.