RANGERS TO START IN DIV 3

[God is an Englishman]

[quote="ruud"][quote="God is an Englishman"][quote="flyingscot"]Jay walking
When you have countries with only a small population there are normally only 2 big teams which most of the population support, thus they will dominate the league , every now and then a different team will jag a title, as for the lobsidedness, different winners for the past 50 years in other countries, 5 in Turkey, 4 in Portugal, 8 in Spain, 7 in SCOTLAND, 11 in Germany , 11 in Italy, 12 in England (14 titles to Man utd in the past 20 yrs, is that lobsidedness) the biggest supported clubs will normally dominate the leagues[/quote]


What are those figures over a 20 year period?

Morally this is the right decision, but economically it's a VERY stupid decision.[/quote]
depends what is more important to you... morals or money?

Im glad about this decision.[/quote]

Morals are over rated, with money you can just buy a new set.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

It still makes me laugh that the fenians call finding a decent bit of tax avoidance to be "financial doping".

Financial Doping Definitions
noun
(sport)
1.the situation in which a sports franchise borrows heavily in order to contract and pay high-performing players, jeopardizing their long-term financial future
2.the situation in which the owner of a sports franchise invests his or her own personal wealth into securing high-performing players, rather than relying on the revenue the franchise is able to generate for itself

Still laughing at us "Fenians"?

noun
1.(formerly) a member of an Irish revolutionary organization founded in the US in the 19th century to fight for an independent Ireland

[DOC]

its always good when you decide to post VB

[God is an Englishman]

It still makes me laugh that the fenians call finding a decent bit of tax avoidance to be "financial doping".

Financial Doping Definitions
noun
(sport)
1.the situation in which a sports franchise borrows heavily in order to contract and pay high-performing players, jeopardizing their long-term financial future
2.the situation in which the owner of a sports franchise invests his or her own personal wealth into securing high-performing players, rather than relying on the revenue the franchise is able to generate for itself

Still laughing at us "Fenians"?

noun
1.(formerly) a member of an Irish revolutionary organization founded in the US in the 19th century to fight for an independent Ireland

I always laugh at you feninans.

Fenian: an Irish Catholic or a person of Irish Catholic descent

You will have to explain how they were guilty of "financial doping". They found some "tax avoidance", the issue now is whether it was avoidance or evasion with both sides claiming different arguments. Had the court found it to be avoidance then it would have been sound business practices. The court never got a chance to rule.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

Where did I say they were "found guilty" of financial doping in my original post?

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season?

[God is an Englishman]

Where did I say they were "found guilty" of financial doping in my original post?

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season?

Where did i say you did say they were found guilty, but someone (was it you) did say they were guilty of financial doping.

my beloved club I couldn't care less I just don't like celtic and think their singing of songs supporting the ira is disgusting.

Do you think all rangers supporters are "huns"? yet you lot seem to revel in calling them that. If rangers are huns then celtic are fenians.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

Where did I say they were "found guilty" of financial doping in my original post?

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season?

Where did i say you did say they were found guilty, but someone (was it you) did say they were guilty of financial doping.

my beloved club I couldn't care less I just don't like celtic and think their singing of songs supporting the ira is disgusting.

Do you think all rangers supporters are "huns"? yet you lot seem to revel in calling them that. If rangers are huns then celtic are fenians.

You might want to ask the people of Manchester or Barcelona and the police riots squads of both cities whether "hun" is an appropriate term for a supporter of the club formerly known as Rangers.

And a Millwall fan lectuing us all on inappropriate football songs? FFS

Anyway, I'm looking forawrd to Millwalll being relegated unless they engage in some financial doping

[God is an Englishman]

You might want to ask the people of Manchester or Barcelona and the police riots squads of both cities whether "hun" is an appropriate term for a supporter of the club formerly known as Rangers.

And a Millwall fan lectuing us all on inappropriate football songs? FFS

Anyway, I'm looking forawrd to Millwalll being relegated unless they engage in some financial doping

and you might want to ask the spectators of fulham and chelsea if fenian is an appropriate name for your lost. THAT WAS EASY!!

Yes, we sing naughty songs. WE ARE EVIL! However, I don't recall us singing about the murder of innocent civilians by a terrorist organisation though.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

You might want to ask the people of Manchester or Barcelona and the police riots squads of both cities whether "hun" is an appropriate term for a supporter of the club formerly known as Rangers.

And a Millwall fan lectuing us all on inappropriate football songs? FFS

Anyway, I'm looking forawrd to Millwalll being relegated unless they engage in some financial doping

and you might want to ask the spectators of fulham and chelsea if fenian is an appropriate name for your lost. THAT WAS EASY!!

Yes, we sing naughty songs. WE ARE EVIL! However, I don't recall us singing about the murder of innocent civilians by a terrorist organisation though.

Which song/s are you referring to?

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

Now these songs ARE offiensive:

who's that lying on the runway?
who's that lying in the snow?
Its Matt Busby and his boys
making all the ****ing noise
cause they can't get the aeroplane to go!

Norrie McCathie (Dunfermilne player who died in his sleep due to a gas leak)
"Where's you're Norrie gone, he's left his heater on!"

Man U Against Leeds:

"And Mustapha said, would you like a kebab?
Two Leeds fans said yes
Then they got stabbed"

Man U Against Liverpool:

"Who's that standing at Hillsborough
Who's that turning ****ing blue
It's a Scouser and his mate, getting crushed on Hillsborough's gates
And they won't be singing Munich anymore

Not sure we have anything as offensive as that in our repertoire but I'm sure you'll dig hard until you do find something

[God is an Englishman]

The most offensive song ever hear at a football match ever "ooh ahh up the ...."

[yogi]

Where did I say they were "found guilty" of financial doping in my original post?

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season?

Where did i say you did say they were found guilty, but someone (was it you) did say they were guilty of financial doping.

my beloved club I couldn't care less I just don't like celtic and think their singing of songs supporting the ira is disgusting.

Do you think all rangers supporters are "huns"? yet you lot seem to revel in calling them that. If rangers are huns then celtic are fenians.

Haaaaaaaaa, there it is, he's like a broken record again, Vista_Bhoy.
Thats he's favourite saying, " Where did I say "

Give it a rest idgit..................

[yogi]

You might want to ask the people of Manchester or Barcelona and the police riots squads of both cities whether "hun" is an appropriate term for a supporter of the club formerly known as Rangers.

And a Millwall fan lectuing us all on inappropriate football songs? FFS

Anyway, I'm looking forawrd to Millwalll being relegated unless they engage in some financial doping

and you might want to ask the spectators of fulham and chelsea if fenian is an appropriate name for your lost. THAT WAS EASY!!

Yes, we sing naughty songs. WE ARE EVIL! However, I don't recall us singing about the murder of innocent civilians by a terrorist organisation though.

How appropriate he's admitting that his club sings naughty songs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,haaaaaaaaaaa.
Fix whats in your own backyard first.

[God is an Englishman]

Where did I say they were "found guilty" of financial doping in my original post?

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season?

Where did i say you did say they were found guilty, but someone (was it you) did say they were guilty of financial doping.

my beloved club I couldn't care less I just don't like celtic and think their singing of songs supporting the ira is disgusting.

Do you think all rangers supporters are "huns"? yet you lot seem to revel in calling them that. If rangers are huns then celtic are fenians.

Haaaaaaaaa, there it is, he's like a broken record again, Vista_Bhoy.
Thats he's favourite saying, " Where did I say "

Give it a rest idgit..................

So it's OK for yogi to say it, but not me - you couldn't make up the hypocricy

I think the must surely belong to you for being so silly and scoring an OWN GOAL!!

[God is an Englishman]

You might want to ask the people of Manchester or Barcelona and the police riots squads of both cities whether "hun" is an appropriate term for a supporter of the club formerly known as Rangers.

And a Millwall fan lectuing us all on inappropriate football songs? FFS

Anyway, I'm looking forawrd to Millwalll being relegated unless they engage in some financial doping

and you might want to ask the spectators of fulham and chelsea if fenian is an appropriate name for your lost. THAT WAS EASY!!

Yes, we sing naughty songs. WE ARE EVIL! However, I don't recall us singing about the murder of innocent civilians by a terrorist organisation though.

How appropriate he's admitting that his club sings naughty songs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,haaaaaaaaaaa.
Fix whats in your own backyard first.

I take you couldn't read the whole paragraph. Sums up the celtic scum really.

[yogi]

And unlike the club formerly known as "Rangers", we are an inclusive club who never had a 100+ years of a sectarian signing policy. Our fans, perhaps are 60/40 in terms of those who follow the Catholic Faith and other religions. So your assertion that we are all "fenians" is incorrect. Your beloved culb formerly known as Rangers would have a 99.99999% purely (I use that term loosely) Protestant following.

Now go and fish in another pond.

Millwall for relegation this season? [/quote]

Where did i say you did say they were found guilty, but someone (was it you) did say they were guilty of financial doping.

my beloved club I couldn't care less I just don't like celtic and think their singing of songs supporting the ira is disgusting.

Do you think all rangers supporters are "huns"? yet you lot seem to revel in calling them that. If rangers are huns then celtic are fenians.[/quote]

Haaaaaaaaa, there it is, he's like a broken record again, Vista_Bhoy.
Thats he's favourite saying, " Where did I say "

Give it a rest idgit.................. [/quote]


So it's OK for yogi to say it, but not me - you couldn't make up the hypocricy



You have no idea,,,,,,,,,,,it's true what people say on here about you,
GIAE = Biggest Shitstirrer ,

[God is an Englishman]

You have no idea,,,,,,,,,,,it's true what people say on here about you,
GIAE = Biggest Shitstirrer ,

THANK YOU!

but then you only say that because I catch you so often and prove you wrong so often.

[yogi]

You have no idea,,,,,,,,,,,it's true what people say on here about you,
GIAE = Biggest Shitstirrer ,

THANK YOU!

but then you only say that because I catch you so often and prove you wrong so often.

Nope,,,,,,,,,wrong !

[God is an Englishman]

You have no idea,,,,,,,,,,,it's true what people say on here about you,
GIAE = Biggest Shitstirrer ,

THANK YOU!

but then you only say that because I catch you so often and prove you wrong so often.

Nope,,,,,,,,,wrong !

Well since you have stated such a great case in your defence you must be wrong. Why don't all defence lawyers just use the same technique.

We have video evidence of you shooting the person and killing them.

NOPE WRONG!!!

[Hibs seven]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19040706

Looks like everybody is picking on them.

On a positive note all the badge kissers (McGregor, Laugherty etc " I have always wanted to play for Rangers) have showed their true colours and exited stage left at the earliest opportunity. Saw that even with a young side out yesterday they managed to get through their cup tie, at least they will have young Scots playing for the jerseys now.

[God is an Englishman]

can't blame the blokes involved for the frustrations they are incurring. How can they be punished for something they had no control over. They are a different company and a different club, so why should they be punished because the club that used to play at their ground had some debts?

This would not happen in any other form of the business world.

[Nice One Cyril]

can't blame the blokes involved for the frustrations they are incurring. How can they be punished for something they had no control over. They are a different company and a different club, so why should they be punished because the club that used to play at their ground had some debts?

This would not happen in any other form of the business world.

Since it's a new company and nothing to do with the 'old' Rangers, they can't claim any of the titles and cups then.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

can't blame the blokes involved for the frustrations they are incurring. How can they be punished for something they had no control over. They are a different company and a different club, so why should they be punished because the club that used to play at their ground had some debts?

This would not happen in any other form of the business world.

Since it's a new company and nothing to do with the 'old' Rangers, they can't claim any of the titles and cups then.[/quote]

.......and there's your dinner!



And since you quote the business world GIAE, you might want to check on the rules for phoenix companies and the use of naming and branding (which would confirm Cyril's view that they should be a new company). Anyway, my tip is the zombies will also be in administration by Christmas. Paying out over 100k in wages every week, with no tv money, no Europe, no SPL prizemoney, greatly reduced season ticket sales......... they will end up like their previous incarnation and somehow they will manage to blame the Pope for it.

[God is an Englishman]

can't blame the blokes involved for the frustrations they are incurring. How can they be punished for something they had no control over. They are a different company and a different club, so why should they be punished because the club that used to play at their ground had some debts?

This would not happen in any other form of the business world.

Since it's a new company and nothing to do with the 'old' Rangers, they can't claim any of the titles and cups then.[/quote]

.......and there's your dinner!



And since you quote the business world GIAE, you might want to check on the rules for phoenix companies and the use of naming and branding (which would confime Cyril's view that they should be a new company). Anyway, my tip is the zombies will also be in administration by Christmas. Paying out over 100k in wages every week, with no tv money, no Europe, no SPL prizemoney, greatly reduced season ticket sales......... they will end up like their previous incarnation and somehow they will manage to blame the Pope for it.

and then a club that doesn't even exist will have more league titles than you However an argument could be made that the team would still exist the holding company wouldn't.

Bit like you blame Lady Thatcher for everything then!

Phoenix Companies - I suggest you read the insolvency act if you think that's making any point in your favour.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

Section 216 of the Insolvency Act 1986:

Restriction on re-use of company names.

(1) This section applies to a person where a company (“the liquidating company”) has gone into insolvent liquidation on or after the appointed day and he was a director or shadow director of the company at any time in the period of 12 months ending with the day before it went into liquidation.

(2) For the purposes of this section, a name is a prohibited name in relation to such a person if—

(a) it is a name by which the liquidating company was known at any time in that period of 12 months, or

(b) it is a name which is so similar to a name falling within paragraph (a) as to suggest an association with that company.

(3) Except with leave of the court or in such circumstances as may be prescribed, a person to whom this section applies shall not at any time in the period of 5 years beginning with the day on which the liquidating company went into liquidation—

(a) be a director of any other company that is known by a prohibited name, or

(b) in any way, whether directly or indirectly, be concerned or take part in the promotion, formation or management of any such company, or

(c) in any way, whether directly or indirectly, be concerned or take part in the carrying on of a business carried on (otherwise than by a company) under a prohibited name.

(6)References in this section, in relation to any time, to a name by which a company is known are to the name of the company at that time or to any name under which the company carries on business at that time.

So, if they want to use the name it would appear HRMC can pursue them for the mountainous taxt debt and penalties they racked up.

And was Charles Green calling the shots before liquidation......... I believe he was. Naughty naughty. Nothing to see here.

[DOC]

i await a pointless rebuttal

[God is an Englishman]

i await a pointless rebuttal

no need really, just read the sentance previous to the one in bold!

Killed by your own sword!

[DOC]

i await a pointless rebuttal

no need really, just read the sentance previous to the one in bold!

Killed by your own sword!

no court has ruled as such, hence should green be running the new rangers? gone by christmas

[God is an Englishman]

i await a pointless rebuttal

no need really, just read the sentance previous to the one in bold!

Killed by your own sword!

no court has ruled as such, hence should green be running the new rangers? gone by christmas

read it all again, it doesn't have to be ruled by a judge

[Nice One Cyril]

Good on ya Hawkesy. Deliberately obtuse

Or maybe not?