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clemence wrote:nearly all the sunday div 1 sides operate as a seperate entity and take the money they earn. And yes they have a great junior setup E&D. Have a look at other council areas away from the north and you will see that most clubs have to share there facilities with community clubs or dont have anything near what is in the northen suburbs.
Clubs can only work with what they have.
As for supporters, there are many people that play in b and c grade saturday sides and then go watch there mates play feds or go shopping with wife, watch local AfL you cant compare clubs as the entire set ups are different.
Sunday league has been around for what 60 odd years. Saturday for only about 22 years. Have a look back to when Sunday league was 20 years old and what where the facilities and clubs like then.
Down south we have to many crap fed clubs and councils that only want to support Aussie rules. Both Leagues currently and previously have had some star players but the money and hence depth is with Sundays but this may change in The future. :wink:
I disagree with this. Many northern clubs have facilities that they have to share with other sportining clubs. Many of the facilities at these clubs are very run down as well. Look at ourselves and Gardens, our buildings are quite run down. Its only been in recent years clubs like Westies and Easties have had an upgrade.

I think you will also find that its hard to get money from council in an area which is already flooded with teams. There are something like 12 soccer clubs within Salisbury council alone. They try and spread funding over a range of sports so the pool of money is quite thin for Salisbury Council clubs. I will give credit to the council as they are looking at developing and improving buildings for all sports.

If you look out West, Fulham have a fantastic set up and share their grounds with cricket. They would run seperate books. West Beach have a great surface and good change rooms and they share the area with West Torrens Baseball Club and Lockleys Footy Club. I wouldn't say that its easy to be a Northern club to succeed off the field. In many respects, its a lot harder.

With junior set ups, it can help some clubs but its not the golden goose either. If you used that logic, Tea Tree Gully and Modbury Vista would be bigger than Man City. Having a junior set up has its advantages but most of the clubs who have an E&D side or affliate, run completely seperate books.

Where Sunday clubs will have an advantage is that we don't compete with the Feds. We play on a different day so if someone works on a Saturday, the Sunday competition is the only alternative they have. There is probably more and longer rivarly's between clubs on Sundays and I guess Geography plays a big part in that.
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I believe Western Strikers should be fined by the Amateur League for Sunday forfeiting against Inters A's only a few hours b4 the game. There is nothing worse as a player turning up pumped looking forward to a game & this happens!

Surely they knew they wouldn't be fielding a team b4 then?
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sirstevieg wrote:I believe Western Strikers should be fined by the Amateur League for Sunday forfeiting against Inters A's only a few hours b4 the game. There is nothing worse as a player turning up pumped looking forward to a game & this happens!

Surely they knew they wouldn't be fielding a team b4 then?
Agreed - something should be done. A pretty poor effort really, it's just basic social etiquette...

If it were me, i'd be pretty annoyed, putting aside a long weekend to do the right thing by your team mates and club.

Maybe they were running scared - knew they'd get pumped? Still a weak excuse...
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This is soft.... We are sitting top of div 2 sat and hoping for promotion this year what better way to see what your gonna be up against next season than playing a div 1 side.... I always pray for a div 1 team every time the draw is done... Maybe they were all hungover from watching Italy v Spain the night before?? Lol
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I'm sure Salisbury Inter would have prepared a barbeque-ordered stock in anticipation, players committed themselves for the day.
You would assume that referee/official costs would be charged to them !
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sirstevieg wrote:I believe Western Strikers should be fined by the Amateur League for Sunday forfeiting against Inters A's only a few hours b4 the game. There is nothing worse as a player turning up pumped looking forward to a game & this happens!

Surely they knew they wouldn't be fielding a team b4 then?

I believe they did us a big favour? A few Inter players would have been eligible for reserves but were picked for First Team?

For a club that has a C-Team what Western Strikers did was very poor and for no-one to turn up, they must have had notice
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They should be fined as a minimum - I'd go as far as taking points off them.

Surely they knew even 24 hours before they were going to do this. Piss weak - an example needs to be made.
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PDog wrote:

Maybe they were running scared - knew they'd get pumped? Still a weak excuse...
Maybe by some of the better div 1 clubs and inter not being one of them
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predator wrote:
PDog wrote:

Maybe they were running scared - knew they'd get pumped? Still a weak excuse...
Maybe by some of the better div 1 clubs and inter not being one of them
Fair enough...

Weak regardless then eh?

Does anyone know what actual penalties could potentially be thrown their way by the league?
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PDog wrote:
predator wrote:
PDog wrote:

Maybe they were running scared - knew they'd get pumped? Still a weak excuse...
Maybe by some of the better div 1 clubs and inter not being one of them
Fair enough...

Weak regardless then eh?

Does anyone know what actual penalties could potentially be thrown their way by the league?
In this situation at the very least they should have their B's thrown out of the cup and their C's lose the points from the weekend.

They should also have to pay the full expenses for the ref, why should inter (or the ref) have to be out of pocket?
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Why is it that Sunday teams feel the need to constantly bring up this argument about which is the better league? We have a cup round and suddenly we have an answer to a question nobody asked! No one cares if the Spanish league is better than the German league, they just care if their team wins the champions league. You don't see Real Madrid supporters giving it to the English when Barcelona wins the UCL... I think we all know who the best team going around at the moment is and good for them. I for one won't be yodelling about the powers of Saturday should St Peters manage to take home the trophy!
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My understanding is that a forfeit in the cup is a $300 fine
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bloodypassit wrote:My understanding is that a forfeit in the cup is a $300 fine
I'd say they should, as suggested, have to pay the expenses for the refs involved, on top of that fine at the very least.

If their reserves were still in the cup, they should be given the boot as well.
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PDog wrote:
bloodypassit wrote:My understanding is that a forfeit in the cup is a $300 fine
I'd say they should, as suggested, have to pay the expenses for the refs involved, on top of that fine at the very least.

If their reserves were still in the cup, they should be given the boot as well.
I believe their B's and C's both played on sunday.
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collyman wrote:Why is it that Sunday teams feel the need to constantly bring up this argument about which is the better league? We have a cup round and suddenly we have an answer to a question nobody asked! No one cares if the Spanish league is better than the German league, they just care if their team wins the champions league. You don't see Real Madrid supporters giving it to the English when Barcelona wins the UCL... I think we all know who the best team going around at the moment is and good for them. I for one won't be yodelling about the powers of Saturday should St Peters manage to take home the trophy!

lol, I think we see this argument all the time

In fact I believe there is 3 pages dedicated to the fact that English Teams are the best in the world

Personally there is no argument Sunday overall is far, far stronger
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God is an Englishman wrote:
PDog wrote:
bloodypassit wrote:My understanding is that a forfeit in the cup is a $300 fine
I'd say they should, as suggested, have to pay the expenses for the refs involved, on top of that fine at the very least.

If their reserves were still in the cup, they should be given the boot as well.
I believe their B's and C's both played on sunday.
I don't think their B's did? Pretty sure they were out the cup and wouldn't have had a catch up game?
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collyman wrote:Why is it that Sunday teams feel the need to constantly bring up this argument about which is the better league? We have a cup round and suddenly we have an answer to a question nobody asked! No one cares if the Spanish league is better than the German league, they just care if their team wins the champions league. You don't see Real Madrid supporters giving it to the English when Barcelona wins the UCL... I think we all know who the best team going around at the moment is and good for them. I for one won't be yodelling about the powers of Saturday should St Peters manage to take home the trophy!

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Knight15 wrote:I don't think their B's did? Pretty sure they were out the cup and wouldn't have had a catch up game?
deliberately said "I believe" as I wasn't sure. I did think someone else on here had said that they played though. For once, I won't argue with you though.
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Exactly :lol:
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Knight15 wrote: I don't think their B's did? Pretty sure they were out the cup and wouldn't have had a catch up game?
Their B's lost in the first round to Hahndorf...
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bloodypassit wrote:My understanding is that a forfeit in the cup is a $300 fine
should go directly to Inter and not the league.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Knight15 wrote:I don't think their B's did? Pretty sure they were out the cup and wouldn't have had a catch up game?
deliberately said "I believe" as I wasn't sure. I did think someone else on here had said that they played though. For once, I won't argue with you though.
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collyman wrote:Why is it that Sunday teams feel the need to constantly bring up this argument about which is the better league? We have a cup round and suddenly we have an answer to a question nobody asked!
In all fairness collyman it is not just the Sunday teams that bring up this argument, as an avid Elizabeth Downs supporter I agree with your statement this thread is not about who is the strongest league, it's about who is the better team on the day.

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