Official rules question

[some bloke]

Ok, maybe im wrong because its a b grade game, but i was under the impression that kickoff is @1:10 and they play 45 minute halves. Whats the actual rules?

[Ernie Cooksey]

Not of sure of exact rules but know if it starts late, the ref will cut it short so the first team game can start on time.
If it starts on time which I think is 1.10, I don't know why you'd need to shorten the halves.

[some bloke]

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

[Chade]

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

Blueblood's correct, it's 1:10pm and 45 minutes halves.

[totsreds08]

Here's one from the jets-monarchs game. If the ref blows a whistle for a penalty and the team scores after the whistle, is he allowed to play advantage and give the scoring team a goal rather than award them a pen ?

[Chade]

Here's one from the jets-monarchs game. If the ref blows a whistle for a penalty and the team scores after the whistle, is he allowed to play advantage and give the scoring team a goal rather than award them a pen ?

No, he's stopped the game by blowing the whistle beforehand...

[Chico]

Here's one from the jets-monarchs game. If the ref blows a whistle for a penalty and the team scores after the whistle, is he allowed to play advantage and give the scoring team a goal rather than award them a pen ?

No... Must go to the penalty... Unfortunate but law is the law!!

[BPBC]

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

Blueblood's correct, it's 1:10pm and 45 minutes halves.

You sure? Ressies used to be 40 minutes I thought? C grade and A grade 45

[Chico]

Ressies definitely 1:10pm kick off and 45 min halves...

[totsreds08]

Here's one from the jets-monarchs game. If the ref blows a whistle for a penalty and the team scores after the whistle, is he allowed to play advantage and give the scoring team a goal rather than award them a pen ?

No, he's stopped the game by blowing the whistle beforehand...

Well that happened against us. It was a joke decision. They probably would have scored but you never know.

[penalty]

League Championship Rules Page: 13
24. DURATIO
OF THE MATCH
The duration of a match shall accord with the Laws of the Game save that Reserve and
Thirds championship matches if so directed by the League prior to the commencement of the
season may be reduced to two equal halves of 40 minutes each with an interval between the
halves not exceeding 10 minutes except by consent of the Referee.

Reserves and C teams play 40m halves. KO 1:10pm for reserves

[Stitch That]

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

Blueblood's correct, it's 1:10pm and 45 minutes halves.

That is in the SAASL rules but I have only seen two games where the referee has actually played 45 minutes in both halves.

[Chade]

Pretty sure our home refs are playing 45 minute halves.

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

Blueblood's correct, it's 1:10pm and 45 minutes halves.

You sure? Ressies used to be 40 minutes I thought? C grade and A grade 45

C grade is 40 minutes.

[God is an Englishman]

Here's one from the jets-monarchs game. If the ref blows a whistle for a penalty and the team scores after the whistle, is he allowed to play advantage and give the scoring team a goal rather than award them a pen ?

I was in the shower at the time but I was told that the ref didn't blow the whistle until after the ball was in the net.

However, had it happened as you said then the ref should have gone back for the penalty. Happened for in the Millwall v leeds game last week and we missed the penalty.

[God is an Englishman]

The iggies club ref that did the c's and is currently doing the b's, told us at half time that the game is scheduled to start at 1:15 and in whatever circumstance its a 40 minute max half. He always tells players that he doesnt make the rules just enforces them, yet from what im watching he has no clue. Just yea.

Blueblood's correct, it's 1:10pm and 45 minutes halves.

I agree, the only anomily is that the game must end at 2:50pm.

[Pommy09]

reserves k/o at 1:10 and play 45 minute halves from what i know, C's are 40 minute halves

[Jay Walking]

C's Kick Off at 11:30am - 40 min halves
B's Kick Off at 1:10pm - 45 min halves
A's Kick Off at 3:00pm - 45 min halves

Its been this way for a while now.

Lol, sorry, typo

[blackout]

C's Kick Off at 11:30am - 40 min halves
B's Kick Off at 1:10pm - 45 min halves
A's Kick Off at 3:00pm - 45 min halves

Its been this way for a while now.

Lol, sorry, typo

+1

Add 10 mins for half time and 10 mins between games, and the times line up perfectly.

[Clever Trevor]

Sunday div five. Barossa v Mantarays. Barossa throw-in. No touches. Barossa Goal. Referee counted it. :?

[safehands]

Sunday div five. Barossa v Mantarays. Barossa throw-in. No touches. Barossa Goal. Referee counted it. :?

Goal should not have stood. Ball needs to be touched before it crosses the line for the goal to count.

How about this one... Penalty, keeper moved before the ball kicked, ball went in. Ref books keeper and orders taker to re take penalty. Shouldn't the goal have stood as after booking the keeper it was a disadvantage for the taker to have to re-take it. What would happen if the keeper saved it on the re-take.

[God is an Englishman]

Sunday div five. Barossa v Mantarays. Barossa throw-in. No touches. Barossa Goal. Referee counted it. :?

Goal should not have stood. Ball needs to be touched before it crosses the line for the goal to count.

How about this one... Penalty, keeper moved before the ball kicked, ball went in. Ref books keeper and orders taker to re take penalty. Shouldn't the goal have stood as after booking the keeper it was a disadvantage for the taker to have to re-take it. What would happen if the keeper saved it on the re-take.

Keeper can move before the ball is kicked, but he can't leave the line. If it goes in then GOAL!

[safehands]

Sunday div five. Barossa v Mantarays. Barossa throw-in. No touches. Barossa Goal. Referee counted it. :?

Goal should not have stood. Ball needs to be touched before it crosses the line for the goal to count.

How about this one... Penalty, keeper moved before the ball kicked, ball went in. Ref books keeper and orders taker to re take penalty. Shouldn't the goal have stood as after booking the keeper it was a disadvantage for the taker to have to re-take it. What would happen if the keeper saved it on the re-take.

Keeper can move before the ball is kicked, but he can't leave the line. If it goes in then GOAL!

That was what I thought too...

[God is an Englishman]

That was what I thought too...

are you sure it wasn't for the attacking team encroaching into the box.

[keegan]

what would be the decision in this situation-
attacking player slips the ball past out coming keeper who cant recover, attacking player realises the ball is going wide of the goal,with a defender chasing him down he manages to keep the ball in play but both him and the defender leave the field of play in their pursuit and before the attacking player is about to run back on the the field and tap the ball into an empty net the defending player fouls him before he re-enters the field of play.
what would the ref give as the foul is not committed in the penalty box?

[jonnomath]

what would be the decision in this situation-
attacking player slips the ball past out coming keeper who cant recover, attacking player realises the ball is going wide of the goal,with a defender chasing him down he manages to keep the ball in play but both him and the defender leave the field of play in their pursuit and before the attacking player is about to run back on the the field and tap the ball into an empty net the defending player fouls him before he re-enters the field of play.
what would the ref give as the foul is not committed in the penalty box?

Penalty... Spirit of the game... Common sense..

[God is an Englishman]

what would be the decision in this situation-
attacking player slips the ball past out coming keeper who cant recover, attacking player realises the ball is going wide of the goal,with a defender chasing him down he manages to keep the ball in play but both him and the defender leave the field of play in their pursuit and before the attacking player is about to run back on the the field and tap the ball into an empty net the defending player fouls him before he re-enters the field of play.
what would the ref give as the foul is not committed in the penalty box?

GOOD ONE!

I would say that you can't give a penalty etc as the foul has not been committed inside the box, you cannot send off the defender because it's an offence not punishable by a DFK. You could still book the player (red if serious enough) but it's play on. If you need to stop the game then it would be a drop ball wherever the ball was when the whistle was blown.

However, would love to hear what a higher qualified ref has to say.

[Βόρειας Κύπρου]

You could still book the player (red if serious enough) but it's play on.

No, you need to stop play to book a player if play is not already stopped.

If you need to stop the game then it would be a drop ball wherever the ball was when the whistle was blown.

Unless the referee stops the play to book a player, in which it is an indirect free kick to the opposing team.

[pernunz]

If a player is outside the pitch (in such a case where they are chasing the ball/player), then they are deemed to effectively be on the pitch at the nearest point (so a straight line to the pitch). This is the same if a player leaves the pitch, they are deemed to be on the line when it comes to offside. It would be a penalty, as the foul would (effectively) be occuring on the goal line.

On the weekend there was a penalty, and a couple of Parafield Gardens players tried to stand next to the goal posts but off the pitch. This is not allowed, as they are deemed to be "on the pitch" inside the penalty area.

[egg and chips]

[On the weekend there was a penalty, and a couple of Parafield Gardens players tried to stand next to the goal posts but off the pitch. This is not allowed, as they are deemed to be "on the pitch" inside the penalty area.[/quote]

Should have both been booked for leaving the playing field without the referees permission.

[blackout]

On the weekend there was a penalty, and a couple of Parafield Gardens players tried to stand next to the goal posts but off the pitch. This is not allowed, as they are deemed to be "on the pitch" inside the penalty area.

I'm always amazed at the crap some people pull to get around the rules. Thankfully the lawmakers put "unsportsmanlike behaviour" in the laws as a cautionable offence, which gives the referee a lot of leeway to clamp down on things like that.