DALGLISH IS NOT THE MESSIAH

[Jimbob]

Our ex-players may have been fantastic players but they’re cringeworthy in the media. And – generally – spout absolute dross.
Jamie Redknapp (ok not a fantastic player), Hansen (the least talented pundit IMHO), McManaman (not bad, but he can’t string a sentence together, woeful in commentary), Lawrenson, Souness and Nicol all rubbish.

Gary Linekar – I’m sure you’d now agree ;)

He's come out with a few beauties over the years but I always liked Hansen on MOTD

[BTAC]

What have Aldridge's comments got to do with mine?

I doubt you'd tell Aldridge to 'shiraz off and support someone else'

Where in all of that did Aldridge say that the cup didn't mean anything to him?

[Litmanen]

I think this is an appropriate time to link this again

[The Kings Jesta]

We ned to remeber when SAF took over at United, he spoke only of catching LFC, not wining the league, but catching LFC. Who was in charge at that time... King Kenny.
The tables have now turned and it is KK and LFC trying to catch SAF and MUFC. SAF was given 6yrs before he acheived his goal.

While Kenny has spent money on players where he shouldn't have he did take over a squad where the best striker wanted to leave and there were left overs from someone elses poor choices. He has won 1 posibly two trophies in his first full season in charge while still trying to correct the mistakes of Roy Hodgson.

2012/13 will be the time to properly analyse LFC under KK. Can he find the next Stevie G? Can he either get the best out of Carroll or will he be able to bring in the striker to replace Torres properly? Can he find a suitable back up/partner for a fit again Lucas? Can he finally solve our right sided problem?

Personally i think he can and will. Will we win the league next year? most likely not.
Will we improve on this year? i think that's a certainty.

Keep knocking us, as history will show we have been at our very best when our back is against the wall. YNWA

[dudley]

lfc have to now also catch mufc, man city, arsenal, chelsea.....some would even name more clubs!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MR. DL]

Don't clubs sell Champions League merchandise?

Key word is "Champions" league. I still find it bizarre that non-champions can play in it. I'd gladly hand back the 2005 trophy if they recalled all from those teams that won it that werent their domestic champions in the previous season.

Or qualified as holders.

Just asked a question, waiting for an answer.

[Le King]

32 points behind top spot.... thats a massive difference
ppl knock fergie, but he rebuilds for the future while competing for the present

[bapa]

32 points behind top spot.... thats a massive difference
ppl knock fergie, but he rebuilds for the future while competing for the present

this

[El Pibe D'Oro]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

[BTAC]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

[The Kop]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

[Nice One Cyril]

We ned to remeber when SAF took over at United, he spoke only of catching LFC, not wining the league, but catching LFC. Who was in charge at that time... King Kenny.
The tables have now turned and it is KK and LFC trying to catch SAF and MUFC. SAF was given 6yrs before he acheived his goal.

While Kenny has spent money on players where he shouldn't have he did take over a squad where the best striker wanted to leave and there were left overs from someone elses poor choices. He has won 1 posibly two trophies in his first full season in charge while still trying to correct the mistakes of Roy Hodgson.

2012/13 will be the time to properly analyse LFC under KK. Can he find the next Stevie G? Can he either get the best out of Carroll or will he be able to bring in the striker to replace Torres properly? Can he find a suitable back up/partner for a fit again Lucas? Can he finally solve our right sided problem?

Personally i think he can and will. Will we win the league next year? most likely not.
Will we improve on this year? i think that's a certainty.

Keep knocking us, as history will show we have been at our very best when our back is against the wall. YNWA

Hey, whoever would have thought it, a Pool fan with a bit of realism.

I just wonder how patient the Americans will be if he gets off to a poor start next season.

[Litmanen]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

Considering he signed around 70 players in his time some of them would have been poor ( Robbie Kean springs to mind).

but

Garcia, Torres, Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, aurelio ( injuries screwed him, not Benitez's fault), Arbeloa, Glen Johnson.

He did buy more ( Kuyt bellamy etc), but i think the ones above, were at a top 4 standard.
If liverpool didn't sell their best players ( which is the biggest reason they are where they are), they would still be a force in the EPL.

Benitez did buy alot of shit towards the end, but the owners didn't give him any money to buy decent players, if you remember he was sacked because his budget was 7 million pounds ( might have been 3 even).

[Jimbob]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

Considering he signed around 70 players in his time some of them would have been poor ( Robbie Kean springs to mind).

but

Garcia, Torres, Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, aurelio ( injuries screwed him, not Benitez's fault), Arbeloa, Glen Johnson.

He did buy more ( Kuyt bellamy etc), but i think the ones above, were at a top 4 standard.
If liverpool didn't sell their best players ( which is the biggest reason they are where they are), they would still be a force in the EPL.

Benitez did buy alot of cabernet towards the end, but the owners didn't give him any money to buy decent players, if you remember he was sacked because his budget was 7 million pounds ( might have been 3 even).

Or you could look at it another way. He signed around 70 players in his time so some of them surely would have been decent players? Out of 70 players signed there's only about 10 that were any good!

[The Kop]

I would be more worried about the abysmal purchasing - Rafa's legacy of buying crap lives on.

Considering he signed around 70 players in his time some of them would have been poor ( Robbie Kean springs to mind).

but

Garcia, Torres, Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, aurelio ( injuries screwed him, not Benitez's fault), Arbeloa, Glen Johnson.

He did buy more ( Kuyt bellamy etc), but i think the ones above, were at a top 4 standard.
If liverpool didn't sell their best players ( which is the biggest reason they are where they are), they would still be a force in the EPL.

Benitez did buy alot of cabernet towards the end, but the owners didn't give him any money to buy decent players, if you remember he was sacked because his budget was 7 million pounds ( might have been 3 even).

Or you could look at it another way. He signed around 70 players in his time so some of them surely would have been decent players? Out of 70 players signed there's only about 10 that were any good!

And how many of the 70 were youth team players……..

[Litmanen]

^^


Yeah i shouldn't have added them , i couldn't be bothered subtracting them all and figured you guys would have worked that out

Still, the fact that they left was the downfall, not the purchases themselves in my eyes.

[The Kop]

Anyway, there’s a good book called ‘Pay As you Play’. Highly recomended.
Sums up historical records of clubs and managers in the PL era.

The most common variable with success is wages not transfer spend.

[Jimbob]

And how many of the 70 were youth team players……..

I don't know, how many?

[Litmanen]

And how many of the 70 were youth team players……..

I don't know, how many?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 419AADuWXt

Take a look!

This one has prices too

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... reign.html

[Jimbob]

A lot of cack in there isn't there?

[rulebritannia]

maybe they wouldnt be so bad if Andy Carroll could actually play football

[Facts and Stats]

Fergie didn't win any leagues whilst Kenny was manager first time.

Fergie almost lost his job when Kenny was manager first time.

Kenny is struggling at present, all managers do. Wenger early this season has as well.

Will he get it right? Who knows.

To me the issue is the Spurs reject, Commoli and Kenny's stubbornness. But we have won a cup so not all bad.

[Nice One Cyril]

Fergie didn't win any leagues whilst Kenny was manager first time.

Fergie almost lost his job when Kenny was manager first time.

Kenny is struggling at present, all managers do. Wenger early this season has as well.

Will he get it right? Who knows.

To me the issue is the Spurs reject, Commoli and Kenny's stubbornness. But we have won a cup so not all bad.

Why do you think we planted him up there?

Ramos will be next through the door

[Facts and Stats]

Just asked a question, waiting for an answer.

Everton sell all sorts.

[El Capitano]

Fergie didn't win any leagues whilst Kenny was manager first time.

Fergie almost lost his job when Kenny was manager first time.

Kenny is struggling at present, all managers do. Wenger early this season has as well.

Will he get it right? Who knows.

To me the issue is the Spurs reject, Commoli and Kenny's stubbornness. But we have won a cup so not all bad.

Please, don't mention Wenger. Wenger had valid excuses, he lost two star players and was given no money to replace them and still managed to remain competitive.

What's Kenny's excuse? Either King Kenny is a fraud or the Liverpool squad sucks.

I think your squad is average and Kenny belongs in an old folk's home.

[Facts and Stats]

Suarez, Lucas, Gerrard.

All missing major chunks of the season.

[The Kop]

Fergie didn't win any leagues whilst Kenny was manager first time.

Fergie almost lost his job when Kenny was manager first time.

Kenny is struggling at present, all managers do. Wenger early this season has as well.

Will he get it right? Who knows.

To me the issue is the Spurs reject, Commoli and Kenny's stubbornness. But we have won a cup so not all bad.

Please, don't mention Wenger. Wenger had valid excuses, he lost two star players and was given no money to replace them and still managed to remain competitive.

What's Kenny's excuse? Either King Kenny is a fraud or the Liverpool squad sucks.

I think your squad is average and Kenny belongs in an old folk's home.

Let's not get sidetracked but Wenger has had money available to him and chose not to use it. Not to mention he has relied on ONE player to get him out the sh|ts and hasnt won a trophy since 2005 FA Cup.

As for the old folks home bit, you do realise your manager is 10 years older don't you.........

[The Kop]

Suarez, Lucas, Gerrard.

All missing major chunks of the season.

These 3 have played 1 game together this season. Nuff said.

Add Agger who's loss coincides with this bad run and Reina and those are the 5 best players at the club.
Take 4 of the 5 best players for prolonged periods out of any side in the league and watch them slide.

First XI is solid, anywhere from 3rd-6th arguably, squad beyond that is average but still better than last season - just look at bench on team sheets year on year.

[El Capitano]

As for the old folks home bit, you do realise your manager is 10 years older don't you.........

I don't see Fergie wondering onto the pitch like a senile old man... Even Gerrard told Kenny to piss off.

[El Capitano]

Not to mention he has relied on ONE player to get him out the sh|ts

Seems like the top 6 all have one or more players who can carry the team.

Does Liverpool have a player like that?