FOOTBALL CLUB V SOCCER CLUB

[onthemound]

easy, change that eggball game to GAYFL!!

problem solvered......



or they could call it Handball???

The eggball game is called "Australian Rules Football".

The GAME isn't called AFL, just like our game isn't called Premier League (or Amateur League)

Spot on Bacon888

[Jay Walking]

Ingle Farm Football Club probably wouldn't allow us to be called Ingle Farm Football Club

[Jonny Lidon]

Ingle Farm Football Club probably wouldn't allow us to be called Ingle Farm Football Club

Don't see how they could stop your team name or clubs name, business name maybe.

You could be Ingle Farm Association Football Club, or Amateur Football Club or Real Football Club....

[Jay Walking]

Ingle Farm Football Club probably wouldn't allow us to be called Ingle Farm Football Club

Don't see how they could stop your team name or clubs name, business name maybe.

You could be Ingle Farm Association Football Club, or Amateur Football Club or Real Football Club....

Why create more confusion. In the end, it just doesn't worry me that much at all.

[Jonny Lidon]

Ingle Farm Football Club probably wouldn't allow us to be called Ingle Farm Football Club

Don't see how they could stop your team name or clubs name, business name maybe.

You could be Ingle Farm Association Football Club, or Amateur Football Club or Real Football Club....

Why create more confusion. In the end, it just doesn't worry me that much at all.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

What confusion? I doubt elizabeth vale will turn up to play afl, or gaza will turn up instead.

Everybody putting up reasons and when they're shot down. Why bother? Should just say that from the start.

[Jay Walking]

The next President of Ingle Farm Amateur Soccer Club can worry about it. Don't doesn't change who plays for us, our bottom line, sponsors, helpers or recruiting players. More things to worry like why you knocked back the huge offer I made to you to play for us this year. Or was it because we are SC instead of FC

[berbatov]

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

What confusion? I doubt elizabeth vale will turn up to play afl, or gaza will turn up instead.

Everybody putting up reasons and when they're shot down. Why bother? Should just say that from the start.

such a big problem!

[Jonny Lidon]

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

What confusion? I doubt elizabeth vale will turn up to play afl, or gaza will turn up instead.

Everybody putting up reasons and when they're shot down. Why bother? Should just say that from the start.

such a big problem!

The sport will never get the recognition whilst we all curtail to other sports.

[Porky]

The sport will never get the recognition whilst we all curtail to other sports.

The sport will never get the recognition in this country naming itself the same name as 2 more mainstream codes. I like the name Association Football...but here in Australia people like shorter names....there is nothing wrong with the term Soccer....for your information the term "soccer" originated in England as a slang term for association football

[winzor]

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

What confusion? I doubt elizabeth vale will turn up to play afl, or gaza will turn up instead.

Everybody putting up reasons and when they're shot down. Why bother? Should just say that from the start.

such a big problem!

The sport will never get the recognition whilst we all curtail to other sports.

Curtail? Don't you mean kowtow?

Do you really believe changing club names from "soccer" to "football" will make the slightest scrap of difference in how others percieve the sport?

[Jonny Lidon]

The sport will never get the recognition whilst we all curtail to other sports.

The sport will never get the recognition in this country naming itself the same name as 2 more mainstream codes. I like the name Association Football...but here in Australia people like shorter names....there is nothing wrong with the term Soccer....for your information the term "soccer" originated in England as a slang term for association football

I know, it was socca and rugga to differentiate the 2 football codes. Should Adelaide United change it's name then? Should the FFA/FFSA change their name?

Even Clive Palmer wants to use "football".

[Jonny Lidon]

The sport will never get the recognition whilst we all curtail to other sports.

Curtail? Don't you mean kowtow?

Do you really believe changing club names from "soccer" to "football" will make the slightest scrap of difference in how others percieve the sport?

curtail - cut short. So football would be cutting itself short to other sports if it gave up the name.

Of course it won't make a difference to how they perceive the sport. The concept is our own ability to stand tall that we are not a 2nd rate sport that considers aussie rules to be superior therefore they can use the name football.

[Wayne Rooney's Elbow]

* sigh *

[Porky]

meh......like arguing with a 2 year old.

[Jonny Lidon]

meh......like arguing with a 2 year old.

I agree - the 2 year old also won't listen to reason and will give excuses like, I don't want to, I don't care and I can't be bothered.

[Porky]

meh......like arguing with a 2 year old.

I agree - the 2 year old also won't listen to reason and will give excuses like, I don't want to, I don't care and I can't be bothered.

Well my 6 year old has a hard time understanding that "football" is not "football" and "soccer" is "football" as kids at her school play "football" and "soccer"....see what I did there?.... ..........funny cause when I first read the title of this topic I was thinking there was a disagreement going on between an Amateur Footy Club and an Amateur Soccer Club.

[CrappyKeeper]

Never argue with a moron. First they bring you down to their level and then they beat you with experience.

Jonny Lidon = a moron.

I hope everyone has learned their lesson

[parker]

The origin of the word “soccer”. For all you out there who love to complain when Americans, and certain others, call “Football”, “Soccer”, you should know that it was the British that invented the word and it was also one of the first names of what we now primarily know of as “Football”.

In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years. This happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”.

In the 1860s, as in most of history with records as far back as 1004 B.C., there were quite a lot of “football” sports in existence being played popularly throughout the world and of course, England. Many of these sports had similar rules and eventually, on October 26th, 1863, a group of teams in England decided to get together and create a standard set of rules which would be used at all their matches. They formed the rules for “Association Football”, with the “Association” distinguishing it from the many other types of football sports in existence in England, such as “Rugby Football”.

Now British school boys of the day liked to nickname everything, which is still somewhat common. They also liked to add the ending “er” to these nicknames. Thus Rugby was, at that time, popularly called “Rugger”. Association Football was then much better known as “Assoccer”, which quickly just became “Soccer” and sometimes “Soccer Football”.

The inventor of the nickname is said to be Charles Wredford Brown, who was an Oxford student around the time of Association Football’s inception. Legend has it, in 1863 shortly after the creation of Association Football, Wredford-Brown had some friends who asked him if he’d come play a game of “Rugger”, to which he replied he preferred “Soccer”. The name caught on from there.

In the beginning, the newly standardized Rugby and Soccer were football sports for “gentlemen”, primarily being played by the upper echelons of society. However, these two forms of football gradually spread to the masses, particularly Soccer as Rugby didn’t really catch on too well with the lower classes. This resulted in the name switching from “Soccer” and “Association Football”, to just “Football”; with the first documented case of the sport being called by the singular term “Football” coming in 1881, 18 years after it was first called simply “Soccer” or officially “Association Football”.

This game then gradually spread throughout the world under the lower class name of “Football”, rather than “Soccer” as the “gentlemen” called it. The problem was though, that a lot of other countries of the world already had popular sports of their own they called “Football”, such as the United States, Canada, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, to name a few. In these countries, the name “Soccer” was and, in some, still is preferred for this reason.

[terryball]

I always new us lot were more uppa class than the uvvers

[Porky]

haha Ass - Occa

[Cruie]

1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang (with jocular formation -er (3)), from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); cf. rugger, but they hardly could have taken the first three letters of Assoc.

That's from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/soccer, but you can find other sources if you want.

So, we call it soccer to differenciate it from the neanderthal game of rugby football (invented at Rugby Public School, if you believe the myth), on which both codes of rugby football (League and Union) are based. A game the wags at the universities (who drew up the modern day rules of both games) called rugger.

And there's also Gaelic Football, which is the game on which AFL appears to be based (I can't stand to watch either for long enough to actually figure out the differences). It appears this was an Irish translation of the rules of rugger and soccer; bless the Irish for managing to get the rules of both games wrong!

And then there's American Football (gridiron) which was apparently invented in 1983 by the marketing department of McDonald's - Though I can't find an online reference to confirm that.

All of the codes call their game football. All of them are ultimately based on the ancient games (Romans and Greeks*) in which a roundish ball - a pig's bladder - was manouvered by hands, feet and head, often by hundreds of players on two teams, often between goals cited miles apart from one another.

In later times, it gave the peasents of merry old England something to do while waiting to die of the plague.

So today, in Australia (and the US of A) - and some other places I had never previously heard of - the word soccer serves the same purpose as it did back in the latter part of the 19th Century, in merry old England; that's to keep us differenciated from the more stupid people who believe carrying an incorrectly shaped ball is a clever thing to do.


* Most of them are still as bad at it today as they were before the Baby Jesus was invented (allegedly).


Happy Easter everyone ... for either today, next weekend, or never - Depending on your particular persuasion.

[Ernie Cooksey]

All of them are ultimately based on the ancient games (Romans and Greeks*) in which a roundish ball - a pig's bladder - was manouvered by hands, feet and head, often by hundreds of players on two teams, often between goals cited miles apart from one another.

A game of this description is still played on the Orkney Isles. It's nuts. The teams are decided by what end of town you first entered Kirkwall by. I was a doonie.

http://www.orkneyjar.com/tradition/bagame/index.html