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I have heard no cards for clubs, I have heard some cards were mixed up and one teams photos were placed on another teams data.

What is the procedure for card checks this year? Does anyone know?

I heard something about a booklet? What if a team has a JSL and JPL, or a player moves up a grade, or drops down, or moves between JSL/JPL, again I'm not the smartest but do clubs just play whoever they want from any age or bus stop as it seems there is no confirmation process.

Does each team have a booklet?
What if a player joins later?
How does the U13JSL coach supply his booklet to the JPL coach who raised a boy performing when one plays at newton while the other is at south Adelaide?
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AL K HOLIC wrote:I have heard no cards for clubs, I have heard some cards were mixed up and one teams photos were placed on another teams data.

What is the procedure for card checks this year? Does anyone know?

I heard something about a booklet? What if a team has a JSL and JPL, or a player moves up a grade, or drops down, or moves between JSL/JPL, again I'm not the smartest but do clubs just play whoever they want from any age or bus stop as it seems there is no confirmation process.

Does each team have a booklet?
What if a player joins later?
How does the U13JSL coach supply his booklet to the JPL coach who raised a boy performing when one plays at newton while the other is at south Adelaide?
Get ready to use a lot of ink and paper.

The FFSA sent us a PDF file of the registrations, one of our Football Directors printed a copy for each team.

It's in booklet form (A4), with players listed in alphabetical order.

Our team managers are sorting out how they will find each player; sticky note on each page, details circle. Or cut out each one and keep in a folder. Etc.
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from what i have seen all the players registered in the juniors are in the booklet, and every team has a copy...
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rossonero wrote:from what i have seen all the players registered in the juniors are in the booklet, and every team has a copy...


Every team has one or should?
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AL K HOLIC wrote:
rossonero wrote:from what i have seen all the players registered in the juniors are in the booklet, and every team has a copy...


Every team has one or should?
Depends on what the club does I guess? I know that we got one for our team with every junior registered at the club in alphabetical order, making a card check a big challenge. Not sure if this can be resorted, it's presented to the clubs as a PDF file and we have highlighted our players in the booklet which has been printed by the JD.
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I though the checking of "cards" went out of fashion when the kids stopped playing for sheep stations.

Perhaps try spending your time positively by counting the 1-2s made in the game by your team and see how that improves during the season.
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AL K HOLIC wrote:
rossonero wrote:from what i have seen all the players registered in the juniors are in the booklet, and every team has a copy...


Every team has one or should?
Why don't you check with your junior coordinator?
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Stitch This wrote:
AL K HOLIC wrote:
rossonero wrote:from what i have seen all the players registered in the juniors are in the booklet, and every team has a copy...


Every team has one or should?
Why don't you check with your junior coordinator?
I don't have a co-ordinator, I don't have a club that my child plays in, I am just commenting on things we hear. If I did why ask here. Plus ontop of that the co-ordinator can't speak for other clubs.
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Hetro Metro wrote:I though the checking of "cards" went out of fashion when the kids stopped playing for sheep stations.

Perhaps try spending your time positively by counting the 1-2s made in the game by your team and see how that improves during the season.
Good point. When I coached, I could never be bothered asking for a card check.

However, while the Junior Leagues have a ladder and Cup round the games will be treated as a competition with a prize. And you can't blame people for wanting to check, they're within the boundary of the rules of the competition.

http://www.footballnews.com.au/forum/vi ... =9&t=53634
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Hetro Metro wrote:I though the checking of "cards" went out of fashion when the kids stopped playing for sheep stations.

Perhaps try spending your time positively by counting the 1-2s made in the game by your team and see how that improves during the season.
Thanks for the tip. I have other ways of measuring the teams improvement and for the record remember doing a card check only once ever and don't often see the need for it. It was just a general comment for those who are highly competitive or suspicious of other teams in their comp (couldn't see that happening too often) :wink:
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kikit2me wrote:
Hetro Metro wrote:I though the checking of "cards" went out of fashion when the kids stopped playing for sheep stations.

Perhaps try spending your time positively by counting the 1-2s made in the game by your team and see how that improves during the season.
Thanks for the tip. I have other ways of measuring the teams improvement and for the record remember doing a card check only once ever and don't often see the need for it. It was just a general comment for those who are highly competitive or suspicious of other teams in their comp (couldn't see that happening too often) :wink:
maybe you have not been around too long then. The reason card checks were introduced by the FFSA was to stop clubs from playing unregistered players. Also from playing players in the wrong age group.

This has happened before and would have continued being a problem if the the FFSA had not listened to clubs concerns and introduced card checks prior to a match kicking off. By producing players cards it made it easier for clubs to verify that a player is actually eligible to play in a match. It has always been the coach's discretion whether to conduct a card check.

However, I'm not so sure that this new idea of having every junior player in alphabetical order in one book, which will get wet and soggy when it rains, is the best way forward. I have no idea why they would have gone down this path when the laminated junior player cards did the job just fine. Maybe a cost issue?
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AL K HOLIC wrote:I am just commenting on things we hear.
The bloke down the pub. Always a good source of accurate information.
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johnydep wrote:
AL K HOLIC wrote:I have heard no cards for clubs, I have heard some cards were mixed up and one teams photos were placed on another teams data.

What is the procedure for card checks this year? Does anyone know?

I heard something about a booklet? What if a team has a JSL and JPL, or a player moves up a grade, or drops down, or moves between JSL/JPL, again I'm not the smartest but do clubs just play whoever they want from any age or bus stop as it seems there is no confirmation process.

Does each team have a booklet?
What if a player joins later?
How does the U13JSL coach supply his booklet to the JPL coach who raised a boy performing when one plays at newton while the other is at south Adelaide?
Get ready to use a lot of ink and paper.

The FFSA sent us a PDF file of the registrations, one of our Football Directors printed a copy for each team.

It's in booklet form (A4), with players listed in alphabetical order.

Our team managers are sorting out how they will find each player; sticky note on each page, details circle. Or cut out each one and keep in a folder. Etc.
why would you need to identify or sort your teams players? if the other team asks for a card check u give them the booklet and its their problem to find them. might stop unnecessary card checks. only heard of two card checks by our club in 5 or so years instigated by our club. if they wanna cheat good luck to them.
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I will say this, been involved at U/13 & U/15 was asked for a card check every second week as recent as 2010/11.

I even had ABE at U12 ask for one at halftime, (losing also I may add) obviously I could have said go jump in a river, however we had nothing hide so we let them do what they wanted. Funny thing was the two boys they were worried about were actually under age.
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Cards are a necessary evil while you have clubs like (insert Western Premier League club) who have been caught cheating 3 out of the last 5 years. They got done for unregistered, overage & also trying to use other players cards in a line up. If ever you play them card checks are a must.
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barney wrote:Cards are a necessary evil while you have clubs like (insert Western Premier League club) who have been caught cheating 3 out of the last 5 years. They got done for unregistered, overage & also trying to use other players cards in a line up. If ever you play them card checks are a must.
Hey Barney, just to do the card checks, which Club is that? It is the Serbian one?
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feel free to check white city's cards anytime you like.....
barney for once i agree with you, it was a problem in the past at the club, and there's actually many other clubs in the western and northern clubs been caught out many times....hopefully clubs and especially coaches start worrying more about developing players rather than winning at all costs.....thankfully its been getting better over the last few years
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I would recommend every one to check AC cards.
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i say just get on with the game , if a team needs to cheat , well the coach ,player and club are worth shit . and if they can sleep at night feeling good , well , they are not the ones you want to trust .
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I have searched and can't find.

I have found that seniors can't play down after playing up on the same weekend, is the same for Juniors?

For example an U14 actually plays for U15 team due to their talent, if that player kicks off at 845am for the U15s can they then drop to U14 for a 2pm kick off. I understand a player can go up, as in playing U14 845am then U15 at 2pm, but can they also go down after playing higher that same day?
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AL K HOLIC wrote:I have searched and can't find.

I have found that seniors can't play down after playing up on the same weekend, is the same for Juniors?

For example an U14 actually plays for U15 team due to their talent, if that player kicks off at 845am for the U15s can they then drop to U14 for a 2pm kick off. I understand a player can go up, as in playing U14 845am then U15 at 2pm, but can they also go down after playing higher that same day?
Yes. So long as they are within the age group they can play. It used to be more along the lines you are suggesting.
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Stitch This wrote:
AL K HOLIC wrote:I have searched and can't find.

I have found that seniors can't play down after playing up on the same weekend, is the same for Juniors?

For example an U14 actually plays for U15 team due to their talent, if that player kicks off at 845am for the U15s can they then drop to U14 for a 2pm kick off. I understand a player can go up, as in playing U14 845am then U15 at 2pm, but can they also go down after playing higher that same day?
Yes. So long as they are within the age group they can play. It used to be more along the lines you are suggesting.
Yeah I knew seniors couldn't I was just wondering if juniors were the same, the players are of age. Therefore I gather the same would go for JPL/JSL as long as it is a max of 4 players they can play JPL then also JSL on the same weekend.

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AL K HOLIC wrote:Therefore I gather the same would go for JPL/JSL as long as it is a max of 4 players they can play JPL then also JSL on the same weekend.
I'm not going near that one :shock: Don't know how it went last year, but I wouldn't want to be the one trying to police it.
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Stitch This wrote:
AL K HOLIC wrote:Therefore I gather the same would go for JPL/JSL as long as it is a max of 4 players they can play JPL then also JSL on the same weekend.
I'm not going near that one :shock: Don't know how it went last year, but I wouldn't want to be the one trying to police it.

I have seen an email from Damien confirming 4 can be raised from JSL to JPL, or lowered to JSL from JPL, and 4 may also play for both on same weekend, being correct is a different story.
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barney wrote:Cards are a necessary evil while you have clubs like (insert Western Premier League club) who have been caught cheating 3 out of the last 5 years. They got done for unregistered, overage & also trying to use other players cards in a line up. If ever you play them card checks are a must.

Same club is still doing it, I know for a fact they are playing a kid reg at another club, according to my bro there has been no approach to his club for a transfer, yet the boy is out playing for them on Sundays.
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Had a game this year where my boys in under 10 came off at half time and said 2 of the opposition
kids had said they were 11 and 12...Same side stood 3 boys 20 meters off side for the majority of the game.

I suppose they pumped us so that's all that matters....
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Are the colors orange and black? Some players have facial hair at 12 ? Bit strange ?
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No....The point is it's SSF, No scores nor ladders, teach them the right way to play....I can only see it as an ego boost for the coach and parents.
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Cabbage Leaf wrote:Are the colors orange and black? Some players have facial hair at 12 ? Bit strange ?

I know a keeper at U13 who had a full moustache, doesn't mean he is overage, now plays U14 still has a full blown moe.
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AL K HOLIC wrote:
barney wrote:Cards are a necessary evil while you have clubs like (insert Western Premier League club) who have been caught cheating 3 out of the last 5 years. They got done for unregistered, overage & also trying to use other players cards in a line up. If ever you play them card checks are a must.

Same club is still doing it, I know for a fact they are playing a kid reg at another club, according to my bro there has been no approach to his club for a transfer, yet the boy is out playing for them on Sundays.

yeah U14 and is registered at another club
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