Rangers

[Ernie Cooksey]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

This sectarian bullshit does not belong in football. Surely the Irish club has a sense of humour. Aberdeen fans can go to Ibrox and piss them all right off with songs about a tackle.

[God is an Englishman]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Let's just leave it as rangers don't sing songs about the purpetrators of their own countrymen's murders.

You won't like my opinions on the rest of it, so why cause all the angst.

[John Duthie]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Celtic are Scottish...not Irish, I assume you're talking about the tragic "bloody sunday" march and protestors, this also happened in Northern Ireland (Britain) not Ireland... why doe you feel the need to sing and fight against the crown?

[web]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Celtic are Scottish...not Irish, I assume you're talking about the tragic "bloody sunday" march and protestors, this also happened in Northern Ireland (Britain) not Ireland... why doe you feel the need to sing and fight against the crown?

Yet again i will say "Celtic Football Club are Scottish" it is a minority that sings the Irish songs.

i am Scottish and support my Scottish Club, Celtic football Club

[yogi]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Celtic are Scottish...not Irish, I assume you're talking about the tragic "bloody sunday" march and protestors, this also happened in Northern Ireland (Britain) not Ireland... why doe you feel the need to sing and fight against the crown?

JD, "WEB" wrote this with no reply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"Also singing songs with words "up to our knees in fenian blood" is ok, if one lots are wrong so are the others"

[John Duthie]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Celtic are Scottish...not Irish, I assume you're talking about the tragic "bloody sunday" march and protestors, this also happened in Northern Ireland (Britain) not Ireland... why doe you feel the need to sing and fight against the crown?

JD, "WEB" wrote this with no reply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"Also singing songs with words "up to our knees in fenian blood" is ok, if one lots are wrong so are the others"

It's absolutely not ok and is quite an offensive song... I still don't see the need or want to fight and sing against the crown

[DOC]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

[Facts and Stats]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

do great and Irish ever go together

[Nice One Cyril]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

Stop fucking beating around the bush and say it as it is. One lot are Catholics and the other lot are Protestants, simple and nothing to do with football. The divisions have been going on since Henry VIIIs time.

[DOC]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

do great and Irish ever go together

I get called great all the time

[DOC]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

Stop bottle of shiraz beating around the bush and say it as it is. One lot are Catholics and the other lot are Protestants, simple and nothing to do with football. The divisions have been going on since Henry VIIIs time.

That's the thing, it's more than a football rivalry and always will be, as long as its left at banter and both sets of fans can have a pint and talk about the game then it's all fine

[John Duthie]

John your delusional if you don't realize why the Scottish and Irish fight against the crown

And Celtic is a Scottish club with a great Irish influence

Stop bottle of shiraz beating around the bush and say it as it is. One lot are Catholics and the other lot are Protestants, simple and nothing to do with football. The divisions have been going on since Henry VIIIs time.

That's the thing, it's more than a football rivalry and always will be, as long as its left at banter and both sets of fans can have a pint and talk about the game then it's all fine

+1

[God is an Englishman]

What about British soldiers killing innocent protesters? We have reasons to sing and fight against the crown

Celtic are Scottish...not Irish, I assume you're talking about the tragic "bloody sunday" march and protestors, this also happened in Northern Ireland (Britain) not Ireland... why doe you feel the need to sing and fight against the crown?

JD, "WEB" wrote this with no reply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"Also singing songs with words "up to our knees in fenian blood" is ok, if one lots are wrong so are the others"

Both are wrong, but singing about the murder of your own countrymen is worse

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

An Aberdden fan's view posted on a forum:

The great ‘Scottish football needs Rangers’ lie
The only thing that has tainted this truly wonderful day for me has been the endless steam of pundits and posters all across the media, patronisingly telling us that we’d all suffer without Rangers.

Their main arguments seem to be that

a ) we need their gate money twice a season
b ) no-one will be interested in Scottish Football without them
c ) Our co-efficient will be damaged by not having them in Europe
d ) Our TV deal will suffer

Lets pick these arguments apart one at a time and put this myth to bed once and for all -

a ) Gate Money: Using ourselves as an example, when the scum are in town we normally get 17k going up to 18-19k if we’re playing decent.
Normally we get about 9k going up to 11-12k if we’re playing decent. Now given that if they vanished we’d still be playing someone instead of rangers, we can assume that we would get our average crowd. So right now with their two ‘visits’ a year, their existence seems to provide us with around 16,000 paying customers per season.

That’s less that 1000 punters for each home game of the year, or one decent European night, or our share of a cup semi final. without their cheating, scummy presence, the league would only get more competitive, there would be more cup finals and european places up for grabs, and therefore more european nights in following seasons.

Every team in the league would improve their numbers, and to suggest we couldn’t make up 16k over a season is ridiculous.

b ) Interest in the Scottish game: This one is brilliant. Sorry, but there’s not exactly a scramble of Japanese Tourists and Brazilian TV companies tearing the SPL doors down right now is there, so I fail to see how are global impact could be less significant than it is at present. In fact, you never know, but a competitive set up where a few different teams actually win stuff on a regular basis, might actually cause a little more interest around the world.

Also, I know one particular country where interest in our game is currently at an all time low. A country that used to love scottish football but that has been gradually turned off it by the antics of the bigot brothers. A country that is actually quite important when your measuring levels of Interest in Scottish football. A country that might actually come back to the scottish game if it were tighter, fairer, and more competitive. Yep you’ve guessed it, Scotland. Without rangers, we’d like our game a lot more, and that might be just about all the ‘global interest’ that we need.

c ) The co-efficient. A vastly overblown argument. Aside from the fact that they’ve hardly been doing our standing in Europe any favours at all recently, this is still a non starter. All reasonably sized countries in Europe get the chance for 3 – 4 of their top clubs to represent them in some European competition that they will find challenging and financially beneficial should they progress in it. It never really changes that much, and it never will. Any minor changes to our co-efficient only ever seemed to do the job of gifting both sets of minks extra Champions League spots, so that they can make more money and make the league yet more uncompetitive.

d ) TV money: Why would fewer people want to watch an open, exciting competitive league than the stale predictable, biased drivel we face now? People might argue that the tims would win it every year. But I don’t believe it for a second. “two team” leagues are quite common throughout the world. One team leagues practically non-existent. The tims didn’t win everything the last time the h*ns were pish, we made sure of that. A we would again.

The Lie has been told too often, but it’s still a lie. Lets start getting the truth heard once in a while. It’s very simple -

Scottish Football – Glasgow Rangers = A Better Place

[Bomber]

Some people still believe in the tooth fairy too.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

Some people still believe in the tooth fairy too.

Have you got any teeth left Bomber?

Some valid points raised by the Sheep fan in my opinion. TV money represents a very small proportion of Celtic's turnover, so the lack of "tv money" isn't an issue. More Europena nights for the likes of Aberdeen, Hibs et al would more than make up for the pittance the SPL teams receive.

TV Money for the current SPL deal states it as an £80million deal over 5 years. £16m per season, divided as follows.

48% of the revenue is split 12 ways evenly. This works out at £640,000 each. The rest is divided up into prize money, depending on where you finish in the league.

1st 17.5% £3.36m (all figures include the £640k)
2nd 15% £3.04m
3rd 9.5% £2.16m
4th 8.5% £2m
5th 8% £1.92m
6th 7.5% £1.84m
7th 7% £1.76m
8th 6.5% £1.68m
9th 6% £1.6m
10th 5.5% £1.52m
11th 5% £1.44m
12th 4.5% £1.36m

A far cry fromt he EPL TV deal which is why a Blackburn etc can survive and compete in the transfer market.
David Murray is to blame for the demise of his beloved Rangers and subsequent demise in the SPL overall. His "tenner for every fiver" comments are the reason the SPL is in the mess it is today (teams could not compete with the ridiculaous over-spending he sanctioned) and the league is no where near it was back in the 80s (when Rangers were getting crowds of 10k or less and the likes of Aberdeen and Dundee United were winning the league and playing in European finals).

[OldRedback]

I get called great all the time

Is that by a little Phillipino man that is chained to your bed face down?

[the fink]

Some people still believe in the tooth fairy too.

Have you got any teeth left Bomber?

Some valid points raised by the Sheep fan in my opinion. TV money represents a very small proportion of Celtic's turnover, so the lack of "tv money" isn't an issue. More Europena nights for the likes of Aberdeen, Hibs et al would more than make up for the pittance the SPL teams receive.

TV Money for the current SPL deal states it as an £80million deal over 5 years. £16m per season, divided as follows.

48% of the revenue is split 12 ways evenly. This works out at £640,000 each. The rest is divided up into prize money, depending on where you finish in the league.

1st 17.5% £3.36m (all figures include the £640k)
2nd 15% £3.04m
3rd 9.5% £2.16m
4th 8.5% £2m
5th 8% £1.92m
6th 7.5% £1.84m
7th 7% £1.76m
8th 6.5% £1.68m
9th 6% £1.6m
10th 5.5% £1.52m
11th 5% £1.44m
12th 4.5% £1.36m

A far cry fromt he EPL TV deal which is why a Blackburn etc can survive and compete in the transfer market.
David Murray is to blame for the demise of his beloved Rangers and subsequent demise in the SPL overall. His "tenner for every fiver" comments are the reason the SPL is in the mess it is today (teams could not compete with the ridiculaous over-spending he sanctioned) and the league is no where near it was back in the 80s (when Rangers were getting crowds of 10k or less and the likes of Aberdeen and Dundee United were winning the league and playing in European finals).

dundee united winning league and playing euro finals in the 80s, lol, refresh my memory when did this happen

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

LeagueScottish League Premier Division:
Winners (1): 1982–83
Scottish League Division Two:
Winners (2): 1924–25, 1928–29
Scottish Cup:
Winners (2): 1993–94, 2009–10[30]
Runners-up (7): 1973–74, 1980–81, 1984–85, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1990–91, 2004–05
Scottish League Cup:
Winners (2): 1979–80, 1980–81[30]
Runners-up (4): 1981–82, 1984–85, 1997–98, 2007–08
EuropeUEFA Cup:
Runners-up (1): 1986–87
European Cup:
Semi-finalists (1): 1983–84

Or didn't this happen because you can't remember it?

[Bomber]

The best thing about the SPL in the early 80's is the fact that it wasnt just two clubs banging away with the league all the time. Yes, the Glasgow giants still ruled the roost, so to speak, but Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, even Hibs and Hearts were farily competitive.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

The best thing about the SPL in the early 80's is the fact that it wasnt just two clubs banging away with the league all the time. Yes, the Glasgow giants still ruled the roost, so to speak, but Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, even Hibs and Hearts were farily competitive.

1979: Celtic
1980: Aberdeen
1981: Celtic
1982: Celtic
1983: Dundee United
1984: Aberdeen
1985: Aberdeen
1986: Celtic
1987: Rangers
1988: Celtic
1989: Rangers

Aberdeen had more tiltles than Rangers during that period and Hearts blew it on the last day of the season on 1986. A very compettitve league until Rangers ruined the league with spending money they didn't have and clearly avoiding their tax!

[yogi]

The best thing about the SPL in the early 80's is the fact that it wasnt just two clubs banging away with the league all the time. Yes, the Glasgow giants still ruled the roost, so to speak, but Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, even Hibs and Hearts were farily competitive.

1979: Celtic
1980: Aberdeen
1981: Celtic
1982: Celtic
1983: Dundee United
1984: Aberdeen
1985: Aberdeen
1986: Celtic
1987: Rangers
1988: Celtic
1989: Rangers

Aberdeen had more tiltles than Rangers during that period and Hearts blew it on the last day of the season on 1986. A very compettitve league until Rangers ruined the league with spending money they didn't have and clearly avoiding their tax!

Fair Point,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Talk O' The Toun]

The best thing about the SPL in the early 80's is the fact that it wasnt just two clubs banging away with the league all the time. Yes, the Glasgow giants still ruled the roost, so to speak, but Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, even Hibs and Hearts were farily competitive.

1979: Celtic
1980: Aberdeen
1981: Celtic
1982: Celtic
1983: Dundee United
1984: Aberdeen
1985: Aberdeen
1986: Celtic
1987: Rangers
1988: Celtic
1989: Rangers

The Aberdeen team of that era were magnificent especially when you consider their Scottish Cup triumphs throughout the decade along with their championship medals and european success. Along with a great Dundee United side under McLean and a competitive Hearts side for a few seasons in particular the 80's were a great time for the Scottish game.

[God is an Englishman]

EuropeUEFA Cup:
Runners-up (1): 1986–87
European Cup:
Semi-finalists (1): 1983–84

Or didn't this happen because you can't remember it?

I still can't see European finals

[yogi]

Breaking News: Rangers have just signed a new TV deal. From next season all of their games are to be shown on the History channel.

[DOC]

I get called great all the time

Is that by a little Phillipino man that is chained to your bed face down?

I didn't ask about your filthy escapades, bloody huns

[yogi]

DUNDEE UNITED will refuse to give Rangers tickets for their next clash at Tannadice if they don’t get the money up front.

The Arabs were seething yesterday at not getting the £100,000 they were due from last week’s Scottish Cup tie at Ibrox.

And they aren’t prepared to lose a similar amount of cash from their SPL game against crisis-hit Gers on March 17.

Record Sport understands they contacted Rangers just before they entered administration on Tuesday, demanding the ticket money in advance for next month’s match.

Now, United have asked Ibrox administrators Duff and Phelps for a written guarantee that they will be paid – and if they don’t they will not issue away end tickets.

Rangers’ financial woes continued yesterday as Dunfermline admitted their non-receipt of £80,000 worth of ticket money has forced them into making cuts of their own.

A statement on the Pars’ website read: “The board of DAFC would like to express their concern and shock that a giant football club such as Rangers has gone into administration.

“The impact of this will be felt throughout Scotland, the UK and Europe and the board hope the club can find a way through this terrible time.

“However, the impact to DAFC is not insignificant. Rangers are due DAFC in the region of £80,000 of gate receipts from Saturday’s fixture.

“This payment is no longer expected to be received by next Tuesday when it was due. This is a significant amount of money for a club such as DAFC to lose after losing £50,000 due to our game with Kilmarnock recently being postponed.

“It will create challenges for us, although they are not insurmountable. We have put in place initiatives to raise capital to ensure the club balances its books and have an ongoing programme to reduce costs.”

It is also believed Swedish club GAIS are due around £250,000 compensation for Mervan Celik.

The 21-year-old was signed by Rangers two weeks ago but GAIS have yet to receive any payment.

[Olympic (Vista) Bhoy]

EuropeUEFA Cup:
Runners-up (1): 1986–87
European Cup:
Semi-finalists (1): 1983–84

Or didn't this happen because you can't remember it?

I still can't see European finals

Read my original post agains smart ar$e. I referred to Aberdeen and Dundee United playing in European Finals. My reply was in response to a statement regarding Dundee United. You really are the resident bore of this portal.

[God is an Englishman]

EuropeUEFA Cup:
Runners-up (1): 1986–87
European Cup:
Semi-finalists (1): 1983–84

Or didn't this happen because you can't remember it?

I still can't see European finals

Read my original post agains smart ar$e. I referred to Aberdeen and Dundee United playing in European Finals. My reply was in response to a statement regarding Dundee United. You really are the resident bore of this portal.

Whatever you were referring to is irrelevant, I can still only see 1 European final.

[yogi]

EuropeUEFA Cup:
Runners-up (1): 1986–87
European Cup:
Semi-finalists (1): 1983–84

Or didn't this happen because you can't remember it?

I still can't see European finals

Read my original post agains smart ar$e. I referred to Aberdeen and Dundee United playing in European Finals. My reply was in response to a statement regarding Dundee United. You really are the resident bore of this portal.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa