Referee Career with SAASRA

SAASRA Secretary · Post by **SAASRA Secretary** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:11 pm

The South Australian Amateur Soccer Referees Association is currently advertising for new and current referees to join the association. A referee course starts near the end of this month (February).
Pasted below is an ad that is being circulated in a number of ways to attract new referees. I would appreciate members of this forum spreading the word. Our league could certainly do with more referees.
After retirement, many players want to continue being involved with their clubs. In these cases, why not consider refereeing on the other day of the weekend, as referees are required for both Saturday and Sunday competitions.

Thank you
SAASRA Secretary

MAD ABOUT FOOTBALL / SOCCER?
The SOUTH AUSTRALIAN AMATEUR SOCCER REFEREES ASSOCIATION are looking for adults who are interested and committed in becoming a referee to officiate in the South Australian Amateur Soccer League.
Refereeing is a rewarding career for anyone who still wants to be a part of the beautiful game.
New course starts Wednesday 22nd February 2012 and runs over 4 by 2 hour sessions.
To register your interest, contact the Secretary at saasracontact@gmail.com

Qualified Referees are also welcome to join the SAASRA.

sephiroth · Post by **sephiroth** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:48 pm

Re: Referee Career with SAASRA

lol

swannsong · Post by **swannsong** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:07 pm

Why not give it a try....it can be a good gig...need to break the cycle of players and spectators giving referees abuse.....so no one wants to referee.
Lessen the abuse and some new referees might see it as an option.

Steve#4 · Post by **Steve#4** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:07 am

swannsong wrote:Why not give it a try....it can be a good gig...need to break the cycle of players and spectators giving referees abuse.....so no one wants to referee.
Lessen the abuse and some new referees might see it as an option.

Too true, there are some rock apes that sit on the side lines.

Vale_boy05 · Post by **Vale_boy05** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:12 am

Franco# wrote:
swannsong wrote:Why not give it a try....it can be a good gig...need to break the cycle of players and spectators giving referees abuse.....so no one wants to referee.
Lessen the abuse and some new referees might see it as an option.
Too true, there are some rock apes that sit on the side lines.

Some players are alot worse...

Steve#4 · Post by **Steve#4** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:14 am

Vale_boy05 wrote:
Franco# wrote:
swannsong wrote:Why not give it a try....it can be a good gig...need to break the cycle of players and spectators giving referees abuse.....so no one wants to referee.
Lessen the abuse and some new referees might see it as an option.
Too true, there are some rock apes that sit on the side lines.
Some players are alot worse...

Agree but the Ref has cards for these instances..

Ga Pala · Post by **Ga Pala** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:11 pm

If the amateur league were smart they would use the substantial amount of money they have in paying good money to refs. This could entice fed refs to switch etc. But they much rather keep their million dollars gaining interest in the bank. to be honest the standard of refs in the amateur league is appalling apart from a few and really brings the league down . The same grandpa's do it year in year out , it's a joke. Pull your money out Amateur league . If your a non profit organization , then Use your money to get enough refs and decent ones.

Steve#4 · Post by **Steve#4** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:19 am

Ga Pala wrote:If the amateur league were smart they would use the substantial amount of money they have in paying good money to refs. This could entice fed refs to switch etc. But they much rather keep their million dollars gaining interest in the bank. to be honest the standard of refs in the amateur league is appalling apart from a few and really brings the league down . The same grandpa's do it year in year out , it's a joke. Pull your money out Amateur league . If your a non profit organization , then Use your money to get enough refs and decent ones.

Spot on...We were only discussing this last night.
One of the pluses for the Federation Amateur league is they seem to supply qualified refs for all games not just the A's.

Mr X · Post by **Mr X** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:52 pm

Ga Pala wrote:If the amateur league were smart they would use the substantial amount of money they have in paying good money to refs. This could entice fed refs to switch etc. But they much rather keep their million dollars gaining interest in the bank. to be honest the standard of refs in the amateur league is appalling apart from a few and really brings the league down . The same grandpa's do it year in year out , it's a joke. Pull your money out Amateur league . If your a non profit organization , then Use your money to get enough refs and decent ones.

Aaron who does your Ressies, would be a great referee if he were to do first team games, he does a great job when doing your home ressies matches

tickets4cheese · Post by **tickets4cheese** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:34 pm

i find it funny that in the amateur league we expect something other than amateur ref's. of course a bad ref can be frustrating but very rarely, if ever, can a bad ref make a team win or lose a game, a cheating ref is a different story but i don't believe any of the ref's that do first team games actually cheat. all ref's no matter how good they are make mistakes just like players and just like players if the ref makes a mistake and people get stuck into them or abuse them then they will be more likely to make other mistakes, the same as a player would if he made a mistake and got abused for it, his confidence would most likely go down and as a result may perform worse.

anybody that puts their hand up to ref a game should be applauded whether they're good or bad at it because at the end of the day a bad ref is better than no ref, with no ref there is no game.

lisbon lion · Post by **lisbon lion** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:05 pm

tickets4cheese wrote:i find it funny that in the amateur league we expect something other than amateur ref's. of course a bad ref can be frustrating but very rarely, if ever, can a bad ref make a team win or lose a game, a cheating ref is a different story but i don't believe any of the ref's that do first team games actually cheat. all ref's no matter how good they are make mistakes just like players and just like players if the ref makes a mistake and people get stuck into them or abuse them then they will be more likely to make other mistakes, the same as a player would if he made a mistake and got abused for it, his confidence would most likely go down and as a result may perform worse.

anybody that puts their hand up to ref a game should be applauded whether they're good or bad at it because at the end of the day a bad ref is better than no ref, with no ref there is no game.

they are not all amateur refs and they all get paid so they are not all doing it for the love of the game and we should expect a good standard

swannsong · Post by **swannsong** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:59 pm

lisbon lion wrote:
tickets4cheese wrote:i find it funny that in the amateur league we expect something other than amateur ref's. of course a bad ref can be frustrating but very rarely, if ever, can a bad ref make a team win or lose a game, a cheating ref is a different story but i don't believe any of the ref's that do first team games actually cheat. all ref's no matter how good they are make mistakes just like players and just like players if the ref makes a mistake and people get stuck into them or abuse them then they will be more likely to make other mistakes, the same as a player would if he made a mistake and got abused for it, his confidence would most likely go down and as a result may perform worse.

anybody that puts their hand up to ref a game should be applauded whether they're good or bad at it because at the end of the day a bad ref is better than no ref, with no ref there is no game.
they are not all amateur refs and they all get paid so they are not all doing it for the love of the game and we should expect a good standard

So players who are accepting payment for playing amateurs aren't playing for the love of the game ?
Having refereed myself for ~3-4 seasons I know from experience how difficult it can be.
I see referee payments more like compensation for putting up with crap they are subject to, even if they referee fairly and honestly.

Steve Bruce · Post by **Steve Bruce** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:30 pm

Are there any current players , ex-players , junior players , parents , uncles , brothers .....who have been thinking about becoming a referee ? The course is FREE and after you pass the exam.....you will be able to referee in lower grade games , or , run lines in Div 1 and Div 2 games . You could easily make $200 cash , each weekend ! If you play Saturday Amateurs then why not referee Sunday amateurs......and if you play Sunday amateurs , then why not referee Saturday amateurs ?
If you are a fed ref .....then why not become a joint member and have the chance to referee Vale v Downs , or , Gardens v Ingle Farm ?????? Contact the secretary , Guy Wall mob 0401 613 332 for more info......

Ga Pala · Post by **Ga Pala** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:15 pm

Pay more than the federation does and u might get some more refs. U got the money so why not? Then maybe we can get refs for reserves games too, cos it doesn't matter how u look at it getting club refs hasn't worked. Most clubs for one struggle to get someone to do t and secondly it doesn't matter how good he is the away team always believe there is bias, which often leads to grief. So it's a no win situation that causes more trouble than it's worth.

Farpost · Post by **Farpost** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:31 am

After discussing the issue of referees/umpires with a few mates involved in different local Aussie Rules footy leagues, its an interesting comparison regarding numbers and quality of officials. Umpiring in footy seems to be a realistic career path for the ex-players who are getting a bit old to still play at the top level. These players take up umpiring to stay involved with the upper grades, and based on their reputation as good ex-players, they seem to have the respect of current players. Money offered for umpiring seems attractive, and they are well organised with training sessions – including the occasional visit from an AFL umpire to give a presentation on interpretation and/or pass on general advice.

Compare this to our code, where the ref seems to be a hated species. Very few seem able to command due respect from payers or spectators alike. This is not a good environment for attracting potential refs, so it’s a bit of a vicious circle. I suspect that until we are able to attract more respected ex-players into the refereeing ranks we are always going to be struggling for numbers and quality.

No easy answers, but maybe the League could start by targeting a number of prominent ex-players and offering some realistic money. That might start a trickle of players taking up reffing once they’ve had enough of the “real stuff”. Optomistic?

blackout · Post by **blackout** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:12 am

Farpost wrote:After discussing the issue of referees/umpires with a few mates involved in different local Aussie Rules footy leagues, its an interesting comparison regarding numbers and quality of officials. Umpiring in footy seems to be a realistic career path for the ex-players who are getting a bit old to still play at the top level. These players take up umpiring to stay involved with the upper grades, and based on their reputation as good ex-players, they seem to have the respect of current players. Money offered for umpiring seems attractive, and they are well organised with training sessions – including the occasional visit from an AFL umpire to give a presentation on interpretation and/or pass on general advice.

Compare this to our code, where the ref seems to be a hated species. Very few seem able to command due respect from payers or spectators alike. This is not a good environment for attracting potential refs, so it’s a bit of a vicious circle. I suspect that until we are able to attract more respected ex-players into the refereeing ranks we are always going to be struggling for numbers and quality.

No easy answers, but maybe the League could start by targeting a number of prominent ex-players and offering some realistic money. That might start a trickle of players taking up reffing once they’ve had enough of the “real stuff”. Optomistic?

Appples and oranges.

Footy umpire mistakes can be evened out over a game of footy, where scoring is so high. Note the vitriol towards footy umpires that does exist at AFL level only pops up when games are close, and a contentious decision has more impact.

Football refs have to deal with a game where one mistake can have a bigger influence on the game, so are under the microscope for the full 90 mins. And cop more flack.

Ga Pala · Post by **Ga Pala** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:32 am

Great point blackout

kamikaze · Post by **kamikaze** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:07 pm

Ga Pala wrote:Pay more than the federation does and u might get some more refs. U got the money so why not? Then maybe we can get refs for reserves games too, cos it doesn't matter how u look at it getting club refs hasn't worked. Most clubs for one struggle to get someone to do t and secondly it doesn't matter how good he is the away team always believe there is bias, which often leads to grief. So it's a no win situation that causes more trouble than it's worth.

Well said gapala now get back to work
Not like you to complain about refs that usually
Big ponds domain

Ga Pala · Post by **Ga Pala** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:03 pm

Day off KAmi ? Too hot hey !