Coerver has closed in SA

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:19 pm

Hi Hollygirl

It should be the last one tonight, so we'll see what happens.

Toying with the idea of sending him to Jeff Napiers. Talking to some of his team mates parents, they have said the same thing and might be forgetting about state developement squad and training with Jeff.

Also depends on what my lad says, he's the one that does the training and he knows himself if its good or bad. So he can decide.

All depends on tonight, I'll keep you posted.

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:39 pm

pieboy you were correct with the $650 . what i previously put up i think is correct but didnt think it would cost $650 to train 4 the year with a state side!!! whatever happened to the millions the socceroos made trickling down to grassroots.so $650 + a week in sydney!! adds up for succesful ones, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:28 am

Hollygirl

Nothing was decided last night, the boys have to go back again next week. Then will be informed by letter.

Had a chat with my boy, and he's only interested in doing the state thing.

My concern is that with club, school and state developement commitments, that he might be burnt out by two thirds of the season. This happened last year, he was playing football 7 days a week, as well as training for cross country, pedalprix etc. This started to tell on him, he started to pick up knocks and his enthusiasm started to wane, especially for the club side of things.

This week he started training with his club, they did a 12 minute run, which he did well in. BUT it affected him 2 days later, unfortunately when he was trialling for the state developement. He is a fit lad, but someone needs to realise, these are just young lads, with other commitments. Yes they can run all day, but not every day.

I'm just wondering, if the state developement need to train twice a week, or is this to justify the money.

Wild Eagle · Post by **Wild Eagle** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:52 am

Mooroffside,

if your son makes the State Development squad, the 2 training sessions a week will more than likely be worth every penny, players learn a lot there.

I reckon it wouldn't be too bad to pull your son out of School Football; not School Sports, maybe it might be good to let him try a new sport, something he can learn.

In my very short experience I have not seen any particular regard towards club players health and fitness.

Ironically, much less than club where very few people have the qualifications that school abund in.

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:03 pm

mooroffside wrote:Hollygirl

Nothing was decided last night, the boys have to go back again next week. Then will be informed by letter.

Had a chat with my boy, and he's only interested in doing the state thing.

My concern is that with club, school and state developement commitments, that he might be burnt out by two thirds of the season. This happened last year, he was playing football 7 days a week, as well as training for cross country, pedalprix etc. This started to tell on him, he started to pick up knocks and his enthusiasm started to wane, especially for the club side of things.

This week he started training with his club, they did a 12 minute run, which he did well in. BUT it affected him 2 days later, unfortunately when he was trialling for the state developement. He is a fit lad, but someone needs to realise, these are just young lads, with other commitments. Yes they can run all day, but not every day.

I'm just wondering, if the state developement need to train twice a week, or is this to justify the money.

You raise a very valid point. I have tried to convince parents and players that they shouldn't over commit themselves - school sport, school band, club sport1, club sport 2, etc, etc.

Especially if a child hasn't quite made up their mind yet on which sport they really wish to pursue, then IMO they should remain at club level to avoid mid-season burnout.

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:20 pm

I agree, he might have done too much last season, but being new to this country, he wanted to do everything, he's that type of lad.

He found club football training very boring and repetitive, hence the lack of enthusiasm towards the end of the season. He has since moved clubs over the break, so hopefully this will sort out out his enthusiasm by the difference in training.

I still think having state developement training on top off club training is excessive at twice a week. By having 4 full on training sessions a week plus matches, the potential for burnout and possibly affecting the kids enthusiasm for the game, should be a cause for concern. These are lads are 11,12,13 years of age, not men. Their bodies are still developing, and with no communication between clubs and state about the training, who knows what damage is being done.

I'll see how he goes on with state, if it its different than club training by being more technical, fair enough. I've got a feeling it will be won't be that much different though. Hope I'm wrong.

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:42 pm

mooroffside, if your son has been identified then I can only re-iterate Wild Eagles' comments - keep him in the state development squad.
With all respect to his current club coach, the development squad training does challenge the acelerate elite talent, especially if the player has a genuine passion for the sport.

As a suggestion you may want to ask your current club coach to excuse your son from turning up to one training per week. As a junior coach I was happy to do this when any of my players had state training commitments. I wanted them at training on the session just prior to the weekend's match for tactical reasons. I certainly didn't need them at club training 2x per week if they were receiving higher level training at state level. Just a thought.

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:38 pm

Drusetta

Thanks for the advice, we will probably do what you say.

My lad was approached by his current coach at the state zone championship last year. Due to the distance we travel, the coach suggested that we only come to one session a week and matches. We were aiming to get him to every session, but in view of the state training, we might take up his offer.

We will see what happens because at this point I'm assuming he will be picked, then again I would be very surprised if he wasn't.

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:45 pm

mooroffside

what club did your son move to???how has he fitted in???

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:12 am

He has moved from a southern club to a northern club.

He has fitted in really well, from the trials onwards he was made to feel welcome. In fact, we as parents have been made to feel more welcome than at his previous club.

He was asked to go to trial for some of the top clubs, but decided on his present one because of the standard of the kids in the team. In the trial match, he came off the pitch saying that it was the best game he had played in for a long time. So much so, he didn't want to trial anywhere else.

The coach is well respected and was another reason he joined. He must be good, if my lad didn't mind doing a 12 minute run in his first training session.

Regards the travelling, I would rather spend an extra 15 minutes in a car so he gets to train and play in a good side. The things we do to keep them happy

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:01 pm

and mooreoffside it was great to see your lad blitz the 12 minute run.he will be a great asset along with our other newly aquired striker, i can see a good partnership developing there.and to hear of the epl team you guys support , you must have class!!!!!!!!

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:28 pm

Good of you to say.

Yes, the team with its new additions look an awesome prospect. Shame I won't get to see him, as I'm coaching at the opposite end of town.

As with teams he supports, he's a hometown team supporter, the latics. He wears Arsenal shirts just to annoy Utd fans, as most of his mates back home were armchair utd supporters. He has been known to wear city kits, again for same effect. Although his mum was a junior blue when she was younger. I didn't know this until we moved in together, and all her scarfes etc came with her.
He did get given a Utd shirt once, it was used for cleaning the car.

Sorry to dissappoint you,if you are blue or red, but he's a Tic at heart.

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:38 pm

i was told u was a blue even though i'd only seen the families latics strips.unfortunately most of the dads in the side are rag supporters, your lad did the right thing (hope he threw it away after washing car).your wife is definitely all class then....

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:56 pm

mooroffside,

It's good to hear your lad has fitted into his knew club so well.

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:01 pm

robinfriday10 wrote:and mooreoffside it was great to see your lad blitz the 12 minute run.he will be a great asset along with our other newly aquired striker, i can see a good partnership developing there.and to hear of the epl team you guys support , you must have class!!!!!!!!

So robinfriday10 reading this quote does that mean your son is in the same northern team as mooroffside's son.??

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:04 pm

robin

I'll have my other lad wear his arsenal top, and the daughter a chelsea kit. See what the Manure dads say. I must have spent a fortune on shirts just to wind them up Lol

Or should the city kit come out.

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:04 pm

yes he is, have met mooreoffside once at bbq.(glad i was correct with guess on previous post). his lad reminds me of alan shearer in appearance and way he plays the game.should be good for my son at training (specially one on ones).

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:11 pm

Your the keepers dad then, i did guess when u mentioned city.

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:49 pm

hey you to whats wrong with man u supporters i heard they have the greatest fan club in the world.

ok so now i know both your boys are in the same team looks like all the man u dads are in for it reading your post.

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:02 pm

Just friendly rivalry.

We lived about 10km from city's ground and 20km from Utd, but we supported our home town team, unlike lots of friends who chose to support the more fashionable big clubs.

So good humour banter is the order of the day.

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:30 pm

I gatherd that it sounds like you both have good sense of humours!!!

At least there are some people left to have a banta with keep it up guys

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:54 pm

Plus I found out if your wife supports city, it isn't acceptable grounds for divorce. The Law is an ***

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:42 pm

soccer mum,man urinal may have one of the largest supporter contingents around but to say they have the greatest supporters would be an insult to everyone from hull to halifax.i believe the greatest supporters are people who follow the underdogs, anyone can support the favourites but it takes REAL passion to watch your team go through more downs than ups.and as for sense of humour!supporting city you have no choice otherwise you'd go mad!!

.LOL

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:45 am

robinfriday,

fare comment,

I was reading your other post's so what you going to do about the sate it sounds like not to many people are that happy with the way it is going so far, whats your thoughts??

I'm just curious as to which path to follow for my son. It's good to get lots of feed back.

keeping in mind its where the kids are the happiest they have to put in the hard yards we just get them there.

robinfriday10 · Post by **robinfriday10** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:29 pm

don't have a problem with tha state"development" sides in under 13s.my son was aked to do it in u/11,12s but his club coach was assistant acadamy coach and my lad is akeeper and they had no keeper coach, they also had about 15 try out so everyone got in.not my idea of 'state'.this year in the 13 north there was about 70-75 kids so they obviously can pick the best in the north,ditto the south.i think making it $650 for training costs and then the cost of travelling to sydney for a week gets a bit much on top of all other costs.but you do what you have to do(hopefully).have heard good things about elvis and scott henderson(keeper coach).thought the millions made by ffa might start filtering down to individual states, probably wishful thinking though.my son has done efi and i believe efi to be a good learner for the kids.friend of mine has his lad goes to jeff napier and he is really happy with him so i think any extra work done ontop of club football with different coaches can only benefit the kids improvement, lot more than in my day.

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:08 pm

Max is no longer involved at the south.

south squad will be merged with the north.

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:30 pm

Does that mean that the trials will start again?

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:29 pm

yep trials again startin this friday.

pieboy · Post by **pieboy** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:39 pm

When you talk of the south merging with the north, is that the 13's state development squad? If so, how many positions in the squad?

Post by **johnydep** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:21 pm

I found the biggest problem was lack of information.

My son went to 4 trial days, at the end we were told that training will comence again after Christmas. We went back for several more and then I was told by the coach that he was doing it of his own back, it didn't count for any of the required hours.

I'd have prefered more info like;
The aim of the accadamy is......
After the trials you will be told if your child has been accepted....
The program for the year is.....

This should have come from the FFSA.

EDIT: this was for the U/10's