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El Capitano wrote:The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
That's why it will be real interesting to see what comes out of Terry's charge... when does that reach a verdict?
That’s not with the FA. That’s being handled by metro police.

This is what will happen though. Metro Police will drop charges and FA will absolve themselves of the situation and say they’re satisfied with the Police’s investigation blah blah.

John ‘Lionheart’ Terry was the victim of a grave misunderstanding.
Luis ‘johnny foreigner’ Suarez needs to be made an example of.
So wait... The FA have not even charged Terry with the same charges they are raping Suarez with? Do they have to wait for Metro Police to deal with it before they can?

The double standard is ridiculous. Both Suarez and Terry deserve punishment, I would suggest Terry's was a whole lot worse and deserves a more sever punishment, but niether of them should get anywhere near 8 weeks.

The hypocrisy is strong on this one.
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El Diez wrote:
totsreds08 wrote:@10. Common sense doesn't work with el diez. He is a guy who hates cheating yet his idol is maradi na


Common sense, so what do the FA have??

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO BAN SUAREZ!
Sorry, but I would rather listen to them than a keyboard warrior.
Stop sooooking u scouser and get on with it.

If, Suarez is innocent, he wouldnt of got 8 weeks.......

Ps, I hope liverpoooooo do appeal and he gets a much reduced ban, I still think 8 weeks is far too excessive!
How am I a keyboard warrior? I'm not threatening anyone. 8 weeks is excessive. He only gets 8 games! Yes we know they made a decision but by the looks of it, it's all speculation and no evidence. Move on you numpty :shock:
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shiraz-ing ManUre having the FA firmly in their back pockets again I see. And while I wont go as far as saying that they are corrupt, they most certainly bend the rules for the scum, or for when it suits their own end. Absolutely ridiculous verdict and you can bet your bottom dollar that John 'I'm a saint but I bang me team-mates missuses' Terry will not receive any disciplinary action whatsoever.

SUAREZ IS HIMSELF BLACK FFS! His mother (very dark skinned) is where he gets his darker skin from.

Personally I find this verdict an insult to the intelligence of the fans, and to the game of football from the FA.

Between this verdict and the pasting Suarez has been copping in the media regarding his so-called 'diving', and then his ensuing troubles on the field, being hacked by opposition defenders and the refs turning a blind eye in most cases, and this, I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).

Disgusting judgement shown, where there is absolutely no proof, except for Evra's word against Suarez, and I think Balotelli summed up the situation well, which is (racism as a topic aside - its not welcome, but I think racist crowds should be targeted more harshly) a bit laughable.

This is the day where I lost my rose-tinted glasses regarding football. I used to think it was a wonderful game, where the best players were free to express themselves on the pitch. I even put match-fixing in Italy etc to one side, as the game was the drawcard, but today, when politics has creeped in and there is obvious favouratism towards one section of the footballing community, I have an extremely bitter taste in my mouth, and it will remain that way. The game has been spoiled. Anything the FA do from now on will be regarded with suspicion from myself, as they only ever do anything for the profit of themselves, their favourite clubs and English players.

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totsreds08 wrote:
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totsreds08 wrote:@10. Common sense doesn't work with el diez. He is a guy who hates cheating yet his idol is maradi na
Common sense, so what do the FA have??
THEY MADE THE DECISION TO BAN SUAREZ!
Sorry, but I would rather listen to them than a keyboard warrior.
Stop sooooking u scouser and get on with it.

If, Suarez is innocent, he wouldnt of got 8 weeks.......

Ps, I hope liverpoooooo do appeal and he gets a much reduced ban, I still think 8 weeks is far too excessive!
How am I a keyboard warrior? I'm not threatening anyone. 8 weeks is excessive. He only gets 8 games! Yes we know they made a decision but by the looks of it, it's all speculation and no evidence. Move on you numpty :shock:


No evidence, u really are a sook mate. Maybe u should stick to computer games champ.....
FA made the decision, so have a cry to them, the more u whinge the more u look like a kid who threw out their toys out the pram.......

Ps, I agree 8 weeks is excessive, if u bothered to read my posts
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And they say that serie A is corrupt...........
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El Diez wrote:No evidence, u really are a sook mate. Maybe u should stick to computer games champ.....
FA made the decision, so have a cry to them, the more u whinge the more u look like a kid who threw out their toys out the pram.......

Ps, I agree 8 weeks is excessive, if u bothered to read my posts
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You are a hypocrit.
El Diez wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And they say that serie A is corrupt...........
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What does that have to do with this thread?
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:roll: :roll: :roll:
Hypocrit??

Maybe u should spend less time trying to stalk me and get on with ur pathetic life u :clown:

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El diez. First you say the ban is correct, then say that it's too much but still agree with the FA to ban him then you say that the English FA is corrupt compared to the Italian association. So is the ban right or is the system corrupt. You're a gift. And FYI, I play Xbox not computer games.
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totsreds08 wrote:El diez. First you say the ban is correct, then say that it's too much but still agree with the FA to ban him then you say that the English FA is corrupt compared to the Italian association. So is the ban right or is the system corrupt. You're a gift. And FYI, I play Xbox not computer games.

Ban yes, 8 weeks - too much
My prob is the constant winging by scousers saying that he doesn't deserve it.
the FA disciplinary board convicted him, not me!

I'm :lol: cos many said that only the serie a is corrupt, yet some have since said that the FA is corrupt. My point being - corruption is rife in all leagues around the world!

Capisce???.


Also, I love it how many attacked me when I said that Suarez did racially abuse evra, and now the FA has found him guilty of racial abuse!
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El Diez wrote::roll: :roll: :roll:
Hypocrit??

Maybe u should spend less time trying to stalk me and get on with ur pathetic life u :clown:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Yes I said Hypocrit, it should still be on the screen for you to see.

Stalking you? Nice little ticket you have on yourself little man. I didn't realise posting in a thread on a public forum equalled "stalking".

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Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months for being late for a drugs test. Where was the proof that he was going to test positive?

Obviously an official has heard something and put his statement forward to the FA, and he or the Fa arent coming forward. It would be stupid to think the FA would ban him for 8 weeks based only on Evras claims. I think the ban is good, will now make players think twice about being racist on or off the pitch!
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Le King wrote:Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months for being late for a drugs test. Where was the proof that he was going to test positive?
Obviously an official has heard something and put his statement forward to the FA, and he or the Fa arent coming forward. It would be stupid to think the FA would ban him for 8 weeks based only on Evras claims. I think the ban is good, will now make players think twice about being racist on or off the pitch!
Are you retarded? Not even slightly relevant. This is one mans word against another, whereas that case was clear cut.
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Le King wrote:Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months for being late for a drugs test. Where was the proof that he was going to test positive?

Obviously an official has heard something and put his statement forward to the FA, and he or the Fa arent coming forward. It would be stupid to think the FA would ban him for 8 weeks based only on Evras claims. I think the ban is good, will now make players think twice about being racist on or off the pitch!
Rio knew you could get punished for not going to a drug test. By the sounds of every article, evras word won over Suarez' which is no way to deal with a case like this. Until I read an official statement that says Suarez has said something racist, I will believe this is flawed.

Btw it's 8 games, not 8 weeks
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There must be something that hasn't been made public yet.
The FA must have a water-tight ace up the sleeve, but the strongly worded statement from LFC casts doubt on that.
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LFC wrote:'We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play including Evra's own Manchester United team-mates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation"
It is reported that Suarez has told the committee what he said and doesn't believe it to be racist.
LFC wrote:"It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act."
What facts? They don't know any more than we do and they're believing Suarez over Evra simply because he is their player. Don't talk about 'facts' when there are none.
The Liverpool striker must now wait for the written reasons from commission member Paul Goulding QC — which will be made available to the public — after which he will have 14 days to appeal.
Let's wait until the (supposedly independent) commission publish their report and judge the case on its merits.
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Fitz wrote:shiraz-ing ManUre having the FA firmly in their back pockets again I see. And while I wont go as far as saying that they are corrupt, they most certainly bend the rules for the scum, or for when it suits their own end. Absolutely ridiculous verdict and you can bet your bottom dollar that John 'I'm a saint but I bang me team-mates missuses' Terry will not receive any disciplinary action whatsoever.

SUAREZ IS HIMSELF BLACK FFS! His mother (very dark skinned) is where he gets his darker skin from.

Personally I find this verdict an insult to the intelligence of the fans, and to the game of football from the FA.

Between this verdict and the pasting Suarez has been copping in the media regarding his so-called 'diving', and then his ensuing troubles on the field, being hacked by opposition defenders and the refs turning a blind eye in most cases, and this, I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).

Disgusting judgement shown, where there is absolutely no proof, except for Evra's word against Suarez, and I think Balotelli summed up the situation well, which is (racism as a topic aside - its not welcome, but I think racist crowds should be targeted more harshly) a bit laughable.

This is the day where I lost my rose-tinted glasses regarding football. I used to think it was a wonderful game, where the best players were free to express themselves on the pitch. I even put match-fixing in Italy etc to one side, as the game was the drawcard, but today, when politics has creeped in and there is obvious favouratism towards one section of the footballing community, I have an extremely bitter taste in my mouth, and it will remain that way. The game has been spoiled. Anything the FA do from now on will be regarded with suspicion from myself, as they only ever do anything for the profit of themselves, their favourite clubs and English players.

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Nice One Cyril wrote:
LFC wrote:'We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play including Evra's own Manchester United team-mates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation"
It is reported that Suarez has told the committee what he said and doesn't believe it to be racist.
LFC wrote:"It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act."
What facts? They don't know any more than we do and they're believing Suarez over Evra simply because he is their player. Don't talk about 'facts' when there are none.
The Liverpool striker must now wait for the written reasons from commission member Paul Goulding QC — which will be made available to the public — after which he will have 14 days to appeal.
Let's wait until the (supposedly independent) commission publish their report and judge the case on its merits.
Also noteworthy:
"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said: "I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist." The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist".
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Evra wrote a letter into the FA about the incident and also went and saw the referee after the game with Fergie. I doubt somebody would go that far for no reason....
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damn .. the "Suarez is a cheat" topic wont be in the top for the next 8 weeks
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
Fitz wrote:shiraz-ing ManUre having the FA firmly in their back pockets again I see. And while I wont go as far as saying that they are corrupt, they most certainly bend the rules for the scum, or for when it suits their own end. Absolutely ridiculous verdict and you can bet your bottom dollar that John 'I'm a saint but I bang me team-mates missuses' Terry will not receive any disciplinary action whatsoever.

SUAREZ IS HIMSELF BLACK FFS! His mother (very dark skinned) is where he gets his darker skin from.

Personally I find this verdict an insult to the intelligence of the fans, and to the game of football from the FA.

Between this verdict and the pasting Suarez has been copping in the media regarding his so-called 'diving', and then his ensuing troubles on the field, being hacked by opposition defenders and the refs turning a blind eye in most cases, and this, I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).

Disgusting judgement shown, where there is absolutely no proof, except for Evra's word against Suarez, and I think Balotelli summed up the situation well, which is (racism as a topic aside - its not welcome, but I think racist crowds should be targeted more harshly) a bit laughable.

This is the day where I lost my rose-tinted glasses regarding football. I used to think it was a wonderful game, where the best players were free to express themselves on the pitch. I even put match-fixing in Italy etc to one side, as the game was the drawcard, but today, when politics has creeped in and there is obvious favouratism towards one section of the footballing community, I have an extremely bitter taste in my mouth, and it will remain that way. The game has been spoiled. Anything the FA do from now on will be regarded with suspicion from myself, as they only ever do anything for the profit of themselves, their favourite clubs and English players.

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im usually very reserved, and is without doubt the first angry liverpool rant i've ever had, but its a formulated angry rant with point. this has really pressed my buttons, and i was in no way expecting this verdict.
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I have gained some faith back in these forums. Common sense on the whole is being employed, not too much one eyed fans apart from El Diez.

Basically this case has had so many twists and turns I am completely lost. 8 weeks is too heavy, it seems they wanted to make an example of Luis. Now that example is made, Terry will get a slap on te wrist.
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Fitz wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
Fitz wrote:shiraz-ing ManUre having the FA firmly in their back pockets again I see. And while I wont go as far as saying that they are corrupt, they most certainly bend the rules for the scum, or for when it suits their own end. Absolutely ridiculous verdict and you can bet your bottom dollar that John 'I'm a saint but I bang me team-mates missuses' Terry will not receive any disciplinary action whatsoever.

SUAREZ IS HIMSELF BLACK FFS! His mother (very dark skinned) is where he gets his darker skin from.

Personally I find this verdict an insult to the intelligence of the fans, and to the game of football from the FA.

Between this verdict and the pasting Suarez has been copping in the media regarding his so-called 'diving', and then his ensuing troubles on the field, being hacked by opposition defenders and the refs turning a blind eye in most cases, and this, I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).

Disgusting judgement shown, where there is absolutely no proof, except for Evra's word against Suarez, and I think Balotelli summed up the situation well, which is (racism as a topic aside - its not welcome, but I think racist crowds should be targeted more harshly) a bit laughable.

This is the day where I lost my rose-tinted glasses regarding football. I used to think it was a wonderful game, where the best players were free to express themselves on the pitch. I even put match-fixing in Italy etc to one side, as the game was the drawcard, but today, when politics has creeped in and there is obvious favouratism towards one section of the footballing community, I have an extremely bitter taste in my mouth, and it will remain that way. The game has been spoiled. Anything the FA do from now on will be regarded with suspicion from myself, as they only ever do anything for the profit of themselves, their favourite clubs and English players.

Mob of cants.
Signed: Mr Angry - Irate Liverpool fan :lol:
im usually very reserved, and is without doubt the first angry liverpool rant i've ever had, but its a formulated angry rant with point. this has really pressed my buttons, and i was in no way expecting this verdict.
But you still haven't really said if you agree with the FAs decision or not?
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The FA’s decision?...we acknowledge you’re not a racist but charge you with racial abuse. Bit like charging someone with murder but not calling them a murderer.
Either he is a racist and he engaged in racial abuse. Or he isn’t a racist and didn’t racially abuse.

Sumptuous act of fence sitting in the actual wording of the FA’s verdict.
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Fitz wrote:I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).
If they don't like it, they can feel free to fuck off back to their own countries. SIMPLE!!
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totsreds08 wrote:How is it not? Rooney kicked someone and successfully won his appeal when he shouldn't have. Violent contact + red card = 3 games. The FA broke their backs to win that appeal.

Rooney's punishment was given by UEFA not the FA. The FA appealed the decision as Liverpool/Suarez are entitled to appeal their.

Completely different circumstances
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The Kop wrote:The FA’s decision?...we acknowledge you’re not a racist but charge you with racial abuse. Bit like charging someone with murder but not calling them a murderer.
Either he is a racist and he engaged in racial abuse. Or he isn’t a racist and didn’t racially abuse.

Sumptuous act of fence sitting in the actual wording of the FA’s verdict.

Making a racist comment doesn't make you a racist though. I call the bloke next to me at work a greek cunt all the time, that's a racist comment but I'm not racist.
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Jimbob - personally, I dont believe Suarez is rascist. Unless absolutely unsurmountable evidence emerges that he did in fact racially abuse Evra, I completely disagree with the FA charge, and subsequent penalty.

But what has really irked me is the severity of the penalty, and the fact that John Terry will in all likelihood, not receive any punishment.

Suarez is mixed race, his grandfather is black, his mother very dark skinned, and he himself has dark skin because of this. He has played with, on a club and international level, other players who are dark skinned, or of mixed race, and he counts them as his friends. I just cannot accept Evra's accusations and subsequent FA case and judgement as fair, unbiased and just.


There, you have my to-the-point opinion on the matter.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Fitz wrote:I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).
If they don't like it, they can feel free to shiraz off back to their own countries. SIMPLE!!
thats an extremely narrow minded view you carry.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Fitz wrote:I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).
If they don't like it, they can feel free to shiraz off back to their own countries. SIMPLE!!
We keep telling you that but you don't take the hint!
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Fitz wrote:I really believe that they are setting a precedent (which was mentioned by previous posters) that for local players, one thing is acceptable, yet for foreigners, it is completely different (unless they play for ManU).
If they don't like it, they can feel free to shiraz off back to their own countries. SIMPLE!!
Ironic to hear that from you. :wink:
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