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Ian_Wright wrote:Rooney fouled someone, he didn't racially abuse them!
Rooney kicked someone. Suarez got accused of being racist with no real evidence. You are on par with el diez. Thanks for trying though :)
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Ian_Wright wrote:Rooney fouled someone, he didn't racially abuse them!
So what you're saying is verbal abuse is greater than physical abuse?
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Racist abuse is disgusting :wink:
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The Kop wrote:Can of worms as predicted:
Mario Ballotelli: The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sums it up!

Geez, we beat Chelsea, beat Arsenal, take points off Man City, all of which aid Manure so if anything trying to penalise Suarez and Liverpool will only hurt Manure themselves!
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LFC wrote:We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
As I understand it though, haven't both players admitted to insulting the other? That being the case, it's not an 'alleged' conversation is it.

LFC need better lawyers obviously, Suarez should have just kept schtum.
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Jimbob wrote:
e-football wrote:I fully expect all the idiots, juveniles, uneducated etc to go on about him being a cheat etc, but this is a truly bizarre case with an even more bizarre outcome.

The LFC statement shows we are not accepting it.

Mr Grabner may well be needed again.
So it looks like Liverpool's season is over before the turn of year yet again doesn't it?
ban doesn't start until after the option to appeal has been exercised :clown:
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
LFC wrote:We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
As I understand it though, haven't both players admitted to insulting the other? That being the case, it's not an 'alleged' conversation is it.

LFC need better lawyers obviously, Suarez should have just kept schtum.
That is correct.
But one player has been banned, go figure.........
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Le King wrote:Manchester United and liverpool rivalry aside

There should be no racism in football or any sport


But then again :lol:

Correct, but 8 weeks is a bit extreme!!!
FA must of had a reasonable amount of evidence to give him 8 weeks, though?
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The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
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totsreds08 wrote:
Ian_Wright wrote:Rooney fouled someone, he didn't racially abuse them!
Rooney kicked someone. Suarez got accused of being racist with no real evidence. You are on par with el diez. Thanks for trying though :)

U don't get 8 weeks for nothing, u twat!!
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I must say, I'm very surprised Suarez got 8 weeks, based on the info we have been told!!















He should of got more weeks, tbh
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love to see what will happen to Terry, who was caught mouthing certain words on video. but evidence of professional lip readers might be deemed weak evidence in that case i suppose- as opposed to the word of Evra here.

Not one person, apart from Patrice (lol) Evra (supposedly), actually heard these words spoken by Suarez.

People like El Diez make me laugh - "FA SAID IT HAPPENED SO IT HAPPENED K?!" ... santa is not real, despite what your parents tell you.
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El Diez wrote:
totsreds08 wrote:
Ian_Wright wrote:Rooney fouled someone, he didn't racially abuse them!
Rooney kicked someone. Suarez got accused of being racist with no real evidence. You are on par with el diez. Thanks for trying though :)

U don't get 8 weeks for nothing, u twat!!
you of all people should know (as a follower of the Italian leagues) that just because a result was reached, doesn't mean it was reached by legitimate means.
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Eight-game ban ... Liverpool's Luis Suarez squares up to Patrice Evra. Photo: Reuters
Liverpool striker Luis Suarez was hit with an eight-game ban on Tuesday after a Football Association disciplinary hearing found he had racially abused Manchester United's Patrice Evra.

An unusually lengthy hearing that started last Wednesday, which itself followed a month long investigation, eventually determined Suarez -- who was also fined £40,000 - had abused Evra during a 1-1 Premier League draw at Anfield on October 15.

Evra, speaking to French television station Canal Plus immediately after the match, said Suarez had racially abused him "more than 10 times" during the game.

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"I was very upset," Evra said. "In 2011 you can't say things like this. He knows what he said, the ref knows it, it will come out.

"I won't repeat what he said, but it was a racist word, and he said it more than ten times. He tried to wind me up. I won't make a huge deal out of it, but it's very upsetting and disappointing."

And the FA disciplinary panel agreed with Evra, their statement on Tuesday saying: "An independent regulatory commission has today found a charge of misconduct against Luis Suarez proven, and have issued a suspension for a period of eight matches as well as fining him £40,000, pending appeal."

The commission's ruling stated: "Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);

"The insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);

"Mr Suarez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000;

"The (penalty) is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suarez against this decision."

Suarez always denied the charge and Liverpool were firm in support of their player, with manager Kenny Dalglish saying last week: "We are standing right beside him and helping him as much as we possibly can."

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10 wrote:love to see what will happen to Terry, who was caught mouthing certain words on video. but evidence of professional lip readers might be deemed weak evidence in that case i suppose- as opposed to the word of Evra here.

Not one person, apart from Patrice (lol) Evra (supposedly), actually heard these words spoken by Suarez.

People like El Diez make me laugh - "FA SAID IT HAPPENED SO IT HAPPENED K?!" ... santa is not real, despite what your parents tell you.


Waaaaaaaa waaaaa waaaaaaa
Yeah let's life with no rules ey snapper head!
He was found guilty by the FA disciplinary board for RACIAL ABUSE!

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The Kop wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
LFC wrote:We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
As I understand it though, haven't both players admitted to insulting the other? That being the case, it's not an 'alleged' conversation is it.

LFC need better lawyers obviously, Suarez should have just kept schtum.
That is correct.
But one player has been banned, go figure.........
But what did each player actually say? I assume Evra's had no racial overtones (filio de puta or something) hence the distinction.

Still think 8 games is too long and it sets a big old precendent if it's upheld. Won't be able to play in white shorts any more, they'll have to be 'lack of colour' shorts.
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@10. Common sense doesn't work with el diez. He is a guy who hates cheating yet his idol is maradona
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Nice One Cyril wrote:But what did each player actually say? I assume Evra's had no racial overtones (filio de puta or something) hence the distinction.

Still think 8 games is too long and it sets a big old precendent if it's upheld. Won't be able to play in white shorts any more, they'll have to be 'lack of colour' shorts.


From what I understand Evra admitted to abusing Suarez, but Suarez denied hearing anything from Evra. (I could be wrong)
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The Kop wrote:Can of worms as predicted:
Mario Ballotelli: The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sums it up!

Geez, we beat Chelsea, beat Arsenal, take points off Man City, all of which aid Manure so if anything trying to penalise Suarez and Liverpool will only hurt Manure themselves!
Don't know why beating Arsenal should matter. Why would United care about them?
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totsreds08 wrote:@10. Common sense doesn't work with el diez. He is a guy who hates cheating yet his idol is maradi na


Common sense, so what do the FA have??

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO BAN SUAREZ!
Sorry, but I would rather listen to them than a keyboard warrior.
Stop sooooking u scouser and get on with it.

If, Suarez is innocent, he wouldnt of got 8 weeks.......

Ps, I hope liverpoooooo do appeal and he gets a much reduced ban, I still think 8 weeks is far too excessive!
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El Diez wrote:
10 wrote:love to see what will happen to Terry, who was caught mouthing certain words on video. but evidence of professional lip readers might be deemed weak evidence in that case i suppose- as opposed to the word of Evra here.

Not one person, apart from Patrice (lol) Evra (supposedly), actually heard these words spoken by Suarez.

People like El Diez make me laugh - "FA SAID IT HAPPENED SO IT HAPPENED K?!" ... santa is not real, despite what your parents tell you.


Waaaaaaaa waaaaa waaaaaaa
Yeah let's life with no rules ey snapper head!
He was found guilty by the FA disciplinary board for RACIAL ABUSE!

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It was, Suarez got 8 weeks!!!
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El Capitano wrote:The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
That's why it will be real interesting to see what comes out of Terry's charge... when does that reach a verdict?
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10 wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:But what did each player actually say? I assume Evra's had no racial overtones (filio de puta or something) hence the distinction.

Still think 8 games is too long and it sets a big old precendent if it's upheld. Won't be able to play in white shorts any more, they'll have to be 'lack of colour' shorts.


From what I understand Evra admitted to abusing Suarez, but Suarez denied hearing anything from Evra. (I could be wrong)
According to Marriner:

Evra ‘Don’t touch me you South American’
Suarez ‘Porque Negro’
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El Diez wrote:
totsreds08 wrote:@10. Common sense doesn't work with el diez. He is a guy who hates cheating yet his idol is maradi na


Common sense, so what do the FA have??

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO BAN SUAREZ! (didn't realise - thanks)
Sorry, but I would rather listen to them than a keyboard warrior. (merely stating facts)
Stop sooooking u scouser and get on with it.

If, Suarez is innocent, he wouldnt of got 8 weeks....... (because no one innocent has ever been found guilty of anything? :roll: btw, 8 games*)

Ps, I hope liverpoooooo do appeal and he gets a much reduced ban, I still think 8 weeks is far too excessive! (hopefully will get reduced significantly on appeal)
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Well in that case, he should be banned for life!
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LFTWNG11 wrote:
El Capitano wrote:The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
That's why it will be real interesting to see what comes out of Terry's charge... when does that reach a verdict?
That’s not with the FA. That’s being handled by metro police.

This is what will happen though. Metro Police will drop charges and FA will absolve themselves of the situation and say they’re satisfied with the Police’s investigation blah blah.

John ‘Lionheart’ Terry was the victim of a grave misunderstanding.
Luis ‘johnny foreigner’ Suarez needs to be made an example of.
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LFTWNG11 wrote:
El Capitano wrote:The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
That's why it will be real interesting to see what comes out of Terry's charge... when does that reach a verdict?
if this verdict is used as precedent, he might be hanging up the boots
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The Kop wrote:
10 wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:But what did each player actually say? I assume Evra's had no racial overtones (filio de puta or something) hence the distinction.

Still think 8 games is too long and it sets a big old precendent if it's upheld. Won't be able to play in white shorts any more, they'll have to be 'lack of colour' shorts.


From what I understand Evra admitted to abusing Suarez, but Suarez denied hearing anything from Evra. (I could be wrong)
According to Marriner:

Evra ‘Don’t touch me you South American’
Suarez ‘Porque Negro’
Some misinformation going on here:

Taken from the original quote - We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

So you're telling me that Marriner did or didn't hear it?
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The Kop wrote:
LFTWNG11 wrote:
El Capitano wrote:The FA coming down hard on a foreigner... That's new.

Foreigners, always the scapegoats.
That's why it will be real interesting to see what comes out of Terry's charge... when does that reach a verdict?
That’s not with the FA. That’s being handled by metro police.

This is what will happen though. Metro Police will drop charges and FA will absolve themselves of the situation and say they’re satisfied with the Police’s investigation blah blah.

John ‘Lionheart’ Terry was the victim of a grave misunderstanding.
Luis ‘johnny foreigner’ Suarez needs to be made an example of.


I think the last sentence is what is the case.
FA making an example of Suarez.
I actually feel sorry for Suarez, he didn't deserve 8 weeks for that.
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