RND 6 AUFC Vs Sydney

[M@rvin]

Home game at Hindmarsh KO @ 1430.
Hopefully there will be a good crowd, weather will be great.

Saturday 26 NovemberSummary
Min 16 Max 29 Sunny.
Winds east to southeasterly averaging 10 to 20 km/h tending southeast to southwesterly up to 25 km/h during the afternoon.

See you there.

[Red-4-Life]

Another famous 6-0 win to Sydney FC

[M@rvin]

If we go with the wind in the first half should only be 3-0

[Fitz]

Good luck to the girls, big test of character to see how they bounce back after having built some good momentum before the MV game. Hopefully can do well.

[Red-4-Life]

If we go with the wind in the first half should only be 3-0

And shut down Simon, Khamis, Walsh etc

[paul merson]

Home game at Hindmarsh KO @ 1430.
Hopefully there will be a good crowd, weather will be great.

Saturday 26 NovemberSummary
Min 16 Max 29 Sunny.
Winds east to southeasterly averaging 10 to 20 km/h tending southeast to southwesterly up to 25 km/h during the afternoon.

See you there.

OK I know its nice to play at Hindmarsh and its a beautiful pitch ect but, AU are very leaky at the back, we arent the best ball playing team in the league and we are coming up against one of the best ball playing sides, so why on earth would you want to play them on one of the biggest pitches in the country thats as flat as a billiard table???

So Sydney can move the ball around even quicker and stretch the defence even further?

Surely you'd be asking Galaxy if you could use their pitch or use Burton and bring the sidelines in.

Hindmarsh is a tough ground to play on when you're not in control of a game, and whilst teams try and defend the whole width of the pitch instead of just protecting their goals their will be balls played between them all day.

'Street wise' really doesnt exist in womens football does it?

[M@rvin]

Good points Paul but I think you will find that as its being broadcast on ABC would be the reason its at Hindmarsh.
The crowd at Burton for the last home game would have looked great on TV where as at Hindmarsh looks like there is no one there.

[paul merson]

Good points Paul but I think you will find that as its being broadcast on ABC would be the reason its at Hindmarsh.
The crowd at Burton for the last home game would have looked great on TV where as at Hindmarsh looks like there is no one there.

Fair point, how hard is it for ABC to set up else where or are the games televised played in stadiums?

[Brillo]

Yay it's at Hindmarsh which means we will have great viewing and a central spot. Thanks to those in charge for the fixture allocation!

[Gazelle]

Yay it's at Hindmarsh which means we will have great viewing and a central spot. Thanks to those in charge for the fixture allocation!

+1

[Outlaw 2.0]

Yay it's at Hindmarsh which means we will have great viewing and a central spot. Thanks to those in charge for the fixture allocation!

Central location to the City, Good viewing and great pitch. All well and good but if your teams gonna get pumped whats the point? play to your strengths.

[Gazelle]

All games should be played on a full size pitch.

If playing to our strengths means that we need a smaller pitch to have a chance of winning, then there's no point in even playing.

All players in this competition should be fit enough to play a game at Hindmarsh.

We should just focus on every player winning her position.

Arguing that the pitch will determine the outcome is bull. Next it'll be that it was too hot or that the atmosphere wasn't quite right.

[Red-4-Life]

Adelaide United v Sydney FC
Saturday 26 November 2011
Hindmarsh, Stadium, Adelaide
Local kick-off: 2.30pm
Live: ABC TV

All the evidence points to this being a one-sided affair but dig a little deeper and viewers of this week’s televised match could be in for an intriguing afternoon.

Adelaide may still be seeking to end a lengthy winless run, which now stretches across three seasons, but history may provide some comfort. The last team to fall to Adelaide was Sydney FC in season one at the same Hindmarsh Stadium.

Adelaide’s home form this season has been erratic and started with a 4-1 capitulation against a rampant Canberra United, however champions Brisbane Roar were fortunate to escape the City of Churches will all three points a fortnight ago.

Coach Dave Edmondson had a full squad last week for the first time since Round 1, following the return of his Australia U-17 contingent and the New Zealander will be expecting to see more cohesion this week.

Sydney’s star-studded squad will sparkle even more this weekend with the return of ace goal-poacher Leena Khamis from a productive stint in Denmark.

The Sky Blues turned in arguably the performance of the season a fortnight ago but, ominously for Adelaide, coach Alen Stajcic says his charges will develop further still. One possible hurdle to overcome for the Sydneysiders is rustiness following the bye last weekend.

Adelaide United squad: 1. Sian MCLAREN (gk) 3.Anna GREEN, 4. Daniela DI BARTOLO, 5. Abby ERCEG (c), 6. Ebony PHILCOX, 7. Racheal QUIGLEY, 8. Leanne SLATER, 9. Marijana RAJCIC, 11. Ashleigh GUNNING, 12. Greta FRENCH-KENNEDY, 13. Vanessa REED, 14. Donna COCKAYNE, 15. Emma CHECKER, 16. Grace HENRY 17. Katherine EBBS, 18. Georgia MACRI, 19. Nenita BURGESS, 20. Kristi HARVEY (gk)
* three to be omitted
In: Nil
Out: Nil
Unavailable: Angela Fimmano, Ruth Wallace (both injured)

Sydney FC Squad: 1. Allison LIPSHER (gk), 15. Thea SLATYER, 3. Danielle BROGAN (C), 5. Estelle JOHNSON, 6. Servet UZUNLAR, 4. Renee ROLLASON, 10. Kylie LEDBROOK, 2. Teresa POLIAS, 9. Sarah WALSH, 12. Teigen ALLEN, 8. Caitlin FOORD, 13. Brittany WHITTFIELD, 7. Heather GARRIOCK, 19. Leena KHAMIS, 20. Monique JACKSON (gk)
In: Leena Khamis (returns from overseas), Danielle Brogan (returns from injury)
Out: Rachael Soutar, Chloe Logarzo (both omitted)
Unavailable: Kyah Simon (injured), Victoria Balomenos (injured - season)

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/new ... y-FC/42913

[paul merson]

All games should be played on a full size pitch.

If playing to our strengths means that we need a smaller pitch to have a chance of winning, then there's no point in even playing.

All players in this competition should be fit enough to play a game at Hindmarsh.

We should just focus on every player winning her position.

Arguing that the pitch will determine the outcome is bull. Next it'll be that it was too hot or that the atmosphere wasn't quite right.

This is what I was talking about, in men's football we do everything we can to win, this killer instinct does not exist here in women's football.

This isnt just about the pitch, it flows on to the game as well, I was appalled at how many goals were given away last season by AU due to general naiveness, if that's actually a word.

Watch a men's super league game then watch a women's prem game as I do, one is social the other is a serious competition, until that mentality at grass roots changes it won't flow on to AU and yes that's when women's soccer will be taken more seriously.

[BlackBrian_7]

All games should be played on a full size pitch.

If playing to our strengths means that we need a smaller pitch to have a chance of winning, then there's no point in even playing.

All players in this competition should be fit enough to play a game at Hindmarsh.

We should just focus on every player winning her position.

Arguing that the pitch will determine the outcome is bull. Next it'll be that it was too hot or that the atmosphere wasn't quite right.

This is what I was talking about, in men's football we do everything we can to win, this killer instinct does not exist here in women's football.

Is the lack of a killer instinct a symptom of the results the womens team have achieved over the years.







This isnt just about the pitch, it flows on to the game as well, I was appalled at how many goals were given away last season by AU due to general naiveness, if that's actually a word.

Watch a men's super league game then watch a women's prem game as I do, one is social the other is a serious competition, until that mentality at grass roots changes it won't flow on to AU and yes that's when women's soccer will be taken more seriously.

[paul merson]

Yeh that certainly doesnt help Brian, but I picked this up before we even kicked off last season for round 1, after seeing both sides of the game it is very noticable, the levels of professionalism are miles apart, super league to Womens Prem and A League to W League, to be fair even Super league to W league.

This isnt obviously everyone individually as their are a few out there trying to step it up but my over all opinion from what I have seen locally, seen in the W League, from talking to players and generally reading this forum is the attitude level isnt there.

Just my opinion, but hey maybe I should just go back to the 1940's.

[Gazelle]

Can you give me an example of how they do everything possible to win?

A men's game would NEVER be changed from Hindmarsh.

Again, give an example of goals being conceded due to naivety??

The premier league is not a social league. Attitudes may be more relaxed, but the football played is of high quality. Did you ever think to yourself that women are more responsive and play better in a positive environment??

To aspire to improve women's football, you can't just attempt to mimic the structure men's game because it simply won't work.

[paul merson]

Can you give me an example of how they do everything possible to win?

A men's game would NEVER be changed from Hindmarsh.

No but im sure if Rini saw a deficiency in his team and needed to change the pitch size he would, look at Stoke city for example, you can see the old pitch lines still, helps them compact the game and makes Rory Delaps throw ins more deadly. We played Mt Gambier in the cup this year, the pitch looked good but the grass was pretty long, 10 mins after our game they brought the mower and roller out, they admited to trying to slow us down, we at metro have changed the size of our pitch in the past.

Again, give an example of goals being conceded due to naivety??

V Perth at Hindmarsh, long story but Mini throwing a ball back to a free kick taker catching the defence to high and let Sam Kerr run straight through to score, something that had been discussed all week unraveled by a player helping get a ball back? Unheard of in mens football.

The premier league is not a social league. Attitudes may be more relaxed, but the football played is of high quality. Did you ever think to yourself that women are more responsive and play better in a positive environment??

Sorry I disagree with this one in general, attitudes are relaxed? that says it all, IMO
Everyone plays better in a positive enviroment, I dont think anyone would argue that, but having a mini nightclub in the change rooms prior to playing is hardly a way to prepare for a game and switch on, every team Ive played in tend to focus prior to playing, not dance!

To aspire to improve women's football, you can't just attempt to mimic the structure men's game because it simply won't work.

Why??

[Gazelle]

No matter where the women's team plays, since they don't own the grounds, they wouldn't be able to have a say in whether the grass is longer or shorter, or how big the pitch is. It's not feasible to change venues every home game to try and gain the optimum outcome.

The only reason why Sam Kerr was able to get through is because of slow defence. Again, I don't think that playing on a different pitch would have any impact on her getting through our defence.

Mini nightclub??? Which club have you been hearing this from? In my experience, the changerooms have always been filled with focus on the game. Maybe the club you're talking about is one of the lower achieving clubs, because I've never heard of this!

Firstly, there's the whole money factor. Men's football is more competitive because there is an incentive to continue to play into adulthood. Therefore, they can afford to be harder on players and train more intensely and more frequently because it's a career option within itself. Clubs also have more funding and hence better facilities which enables them to run more 'professional' training sessions.

Women's football has to try and concentrate on creating an environment that keeps players interested, because so many of them are deterred due to the lack of stable career options.

There's also the style of play and physical difference between men and women that needs to be accounted for: Put a premier league women's team into a super league men's team training structure and they'll burn out after a few weeks.

Think of this for instance: even at a junior level, women's clubs hold 'trials,' however all players are accepted and they make teams according to how many girls come and show interest.

Men's clubs hold trials which players are actually turned away from because there is so much competition.

It is for these reasons that it would be counterproductive to attmept to follow the structure of the men's game.

[paul merson]

No matter where the women's team plays, since they don't own the grounds, they wouldn't be able to have a say in whether the grass is longer or shorter, or how big the pitch is. It's not feasible to change venues every home game to try and gain the optimum outcome.

The only reason why Sam Kerr was able to get through is because of slow defence. Again, I don't think that playing on a different pitch would have any impact on her getting through our defence.

Mini nightclub??? Which club have you been hearing this from? In my experience, the changerooms have always been filled with focus on the game. Maybe the club you're talking about is one of the lower achieving clubs, because I've never heard of this!

Firstly, there's the whole money factor. Men's football is more competitive because there is an incentive to continue to play into adulthood. Therefore, they can afford to be harder on players and train more intensely and more frequently because it's a career option within itself. Clubs also have more funding and hence better facilities which enables them to run more 'professional' training sessions.

Women's football has to try and concentrate on creating an environment that keeps players interested, because so many of them are deterred due to the lack of stable career options.

There's also the style of play and physical difference between men and women that needs to be accounted for: Put a premier league women's team into a super league men's team training structure and they'll burn out after a few weeks.

Think of this for instance: even at a junior level, women's clubs hold 'trials,' however all players are accepted and they make teams according to how many girls come and show interest.

Men's clubs hold trials which players are actually turned away from because there is so much competition.

It is for these reasons that it would be counterproductive to attmept to follow the structure of the men's game.

PM'd response.

[Con]

Is the A.U. coach full-time?

[gee_kay]

Is the A.U. coach full-time?

i believe so

[Fitz]

Is the A.U. coach full-time?

Yes, Dave is head of women's football at FFSA, as well as being W-League coach. great, passionate guy. fantastic to have him on board.

[John Cena]

as a ex keeper why did sian leave all th balls go out as a goal kick when she could have grabbed it in play, you use more energy with a goal kick plus if she picked it up before it went out she couldve made some fast breaks insted of letting sydney get shape

[BADA BING]

i felt sorry for the AU keeper today

[Fitz]

Sydney have a lot of depth and talent at their disposal. Uzunlar tore us a new one and Garriock knows exactly where to be at the right time. The way she delays her runs until the right moment is fantastic. Foord didnt have her best game but she looks incredibly dangerous every time she gets near it, even if it doesnt turn out.

Thought our GK had a horror. Solid with her feet but doesnt matter when you cant use your hands. Hopefully Sian gets into stride after her lengthy injury layoff. Gunning looked pretty solid at RB, and Green did well on the left dealing with two players a lot of the time due to Uzunlar bombing forward (our L Mids got beaten far too easily). Cockayne hardly tracked her full back at all, decent going forward but bloody nora she needs to get some discipline defensively. MJ worked her socks off and took her goal well. Though Quigley had a pretty poor game, and instead of looking longer maybe the Reds should try and play through her a bit more. Grace Henry tried hard, but gave the ball away too much and didnt track midfield runners (have to give some credit to SFC for their blind side runs tho), however one very inspiring bit of play when she put her head on the line and almost got her block knocked off by the opposition keeper. Our football fitness is obviously lacking and our inability to run out a game is costing us. Checker looks effin brilliant, fantastic prospect. Erceg is a natural leader, solid in the air and shows an ability to step into the midfield and hit a good pass. I thought Ebbs could have been brought on earlier, she has a lot of energy. Di Bartolo struggled against Uzunlar when she came on.

There's a lot of effort from the girls, but they have to suffer as a team more without the ball, maintain discipline to track runners both through the middle and wide, and more patience in the build up. Hopefully Dave can keep moulding the side and we will continue to improve.

Overall, I thought all of SFC's goals were preventable. Garriock's was a cracking strike, but Henry didnt transition fast enough, which allowed SFC to pressure the middle, play out to Garriock in space and she picked the spot well. Other 3 were simply, GK errors. Chuck in the missed penalty, and SFC should have had 2 of those goals really.

Dead set penalty on the FK, when Uzunlar lifted her arm, count that pen goal, and MJ's, and I think 2-2 would have been a fantastic result, but credit to Sydney, they were the better side and threatened more. Uzunlar and Garriock the standouts.

Also, would like to highlight the combination play displayed by Sydney. Some takeovers, give and go's, third man runs, overlaps and stepovers displayed, showing some fantastic creativity and spacial awareness. They look like the team to beat along with Canberra, however I believe SFC is the most talented side.

[Gazelle]

I agree that we showed some promise throughout the game. By scoring the first goal, I think that we really did scare them. Erceg was solid as a rock in defence.

I think that for next season, one of the main areas of improvement will need to be match fitness as well as speed/acceleration. Also some modifications to the squad, but keeping the core 11.

I think that we had a bit of bad luck today as well.

Disagree with how Garriock dominated. She's a bully on the pitch. She hacked us far too much today., as did Foord.

[Fitz]

Agree, the first goal was certainly a big scare for them, and we looked quite good, but then the team weren't quick enough on defensive transition numerous times, and when we conceded, they probably deserved the equaliser. Team needed to really dig in and hold out til half time in the lead and really would have been interesting then. As I said, the team needs to recognise when they need to lift and are probably lacking the 'feel' for the game, and where the dangerous moments are.

Again, agree on the improvement areas. Speed in attacking third will have to be focused on, however I still believe our midfield need to improve on their movement to give our defenders better options to play out safely, and allow us to play a slow tempo buildup when we want to, whilst also gaining the ability to 'rest' with the ball. Football fitness must be looked at not just by Dave, but by all Prem teams in the State, so that players are in great condiiton for when Dave takes over in the W-League season.

Bad luck, I dont like to use those words, usually bad luck is down to poor technical execution, but for the game I saw, I will allow it. Some very, very tight offside calls, and crucial calls by the ref just when we looked dangerous. Dave (and the crowd) were noticeably very frustrated. One or two of those decisions go our way and it could make a hell of a difference.

Erceg is a brilliant addition to the squad, and a fantastic choice as Captain, she inspires confidence in those around her. I really think we desperately need a top class central midfielder.

One tactical move I would have considered would have been to play Di Bartolo off MJ when she came on, moving Quigley to the left flank. Uzunlar would have been far more hesitant on bombing forward and allowing Quigs space behind.

[Red-4-Life]

Girls should be proud of their performance. I was speaking to a Sydney FC player post game and she said that the lady reds are a much more competitive team now. 3 goals were keeping errors, but hey thats football. The bye should do the team some good before they head to brisbane.

I thought Di Bartolo added a bit of spark on the wing when she came on, she's not the biggest player but definitely puts up a fight and has pace.

[Fitz]

Girls should be proud of their performance. I was speaking to a Sydney FC player post game and she said that the lady reds are a much more competitive team now. 3 goals were keeping errors, but hey thats football. The bye should do the team some good before they head to brisbane.

I thought Di Bartolo added a bit of spark on the wing when she came on, she's not the biggest player but definitely puts up a fight and has pace.

Fantastic, if the competition thinks we are improving then its positive momentum (esp. coming from Sydney). Players and coach should be commended for the display. Kyah Simon to come back into SFC team, which adds yet another dimension to their game. Theyll be purring like a Rolls Royce soon.

Di Bartolo does show promise, but she got handled by Uzunlar easily. Needs to operate between the lines a la David Silva. Like the look of her but has a lot of work to do, and needs to improve to make her mark on the competition.